Fully functioning editor in June...!!!!

[Stuie]

From wargamer.com:

"However, our attentive reporters caught another little tidbit, casually mentioned during their conversation. Apparently there are plans to release a fully functional Scenario/Map Editor, complete with multiplayer tools, as early as June."

http://www.wargamer.com/news/default.asp?target=newsitem1022193974,18997

[alva]

like i've said before, i expect them to release some kind of multiplayer for free, but if you want the the whole thing , you've got the pay for it. Wich to me seems fairto me, if they throw in the editor, let's not argue 'bout that ok

have fun

[Catt]

I'm not sure "multiplayer tools" means the same thing as "multiplayer capabilities." The "tools" are related to the scenario editor to be released in a (free) patch. My guess is that the greatly enhanced editor will allow true scenario creation, including city / unit placement, etc.

So, each of you scenario creators can select multiple human player locations and civs (i.e., can create scenarios for MP), which are unplayable as such until multiplayer capability is available . . . . thereby whetting the appetite for the coming (NOT free) XP.

At least, that's what I would do . . . .

Catt

[Shadowstrike]

I would have gladly shelled out $30 extra for multiplayer and the scenario editor if it came out packaged with Civ3 back in December. Civ3 only needed a little boost to make it into a legend.

But given the disappointment seen in Civ3 so far, I'd take a "wait and see" approach to this. Probably won't be the be all, end all of Civ editing, but if there is some scenario potential, I reckon its better than none.

[Coracle]

I paid fifty bucks for a beta, incomplete game last December.

I expect scenarios as a free patch, or the like.

I don't really care about MP.

[alva]

Originally posted by Coracle
I paid fifty bucks for a beta, incomplete game last December.

I expect scenarios as a free patch, or the like.

I don't really care about MP.

does this happen automatically??
kind of like a standard form, fill in the blanks kind of thing?

[Andrew Cory]

Originally posted by alva848
like i've said before, i expect them to release some kind of multiplayer for free, but if you want the the whole thing , you've got the pay for it. Wich to me seems fairto me, if they throw in the editor, let's not argue 'bout that ok

have fun

That makes a lot of sense, buisness-wise. If they release the senerio editor in June, we can expect at least 5 _good_ senerios come october when the XP arrives. People will buy the XP, and come looking for senarios. Which will exist...

[zulu9812]

To be honest - I only really want the scenario editor. What then, is the point of buying the XP

[Grumbold]

I suppose it depends on whether you can play the games you design without the XP. If you can build a single player WWII scenario with all your own units, stats, techs and map features and play it using the original Civ game, then that will be enough for some players and answer a lot of their critics.

[Spiffor]

If they indeed release the full editor for free, then I consider their reputation as pure as snow. Really, and without irony.

(But I'm sure that even if they do, some whiners will come automagically, just to ruin the party)

[zulu9812]

The 'free' editor will probably have less features than the one you pay for.

[EnochF]

Eh... at this point, even with something they might call a "full editor," I don't think the game is salvageable, but we'll see. (How could they possibly integrate a function that allows you to add new city improvements or wonders without completely redesigning, or eliminating, the City View, for example?) Besides, too many numbers are hardcoded, and it's a pain in the ass to work around them.

Still, there are a lot of good ideas in Civ III, and I hope they make enough money to do Civ IV, and really work everything out properly.

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by zulu9812
The 'free' editor will probably have less features than the one you pay for.

If that's the case, then it will probably only due to the fact that they'll have an extra 4 months to work on it.

[WarpStorm]

Originally posted by EnochF
Eh... at this point, even with something they might call a "full editor," I don't think the game is salvageable, but we'll see. (How could they possibly integrate a function that allows you to add new city improvements or wonders without completely redesigning, or eliminating, the City View, for example?) Besides, too many numbers are hardcoded, and it's a pain in the ass to work around them.

We'll see. I, for one, am certain that the editor will allow you to add buildings and Wonders. Call me optimistic.

As far as hard-coded numbers, have you looked at the editor lately? There are less and less hard-coded numbers each iteration.

[alva]

Originally posted by Andrew Cory

That makes a lot of sense, buisness-wise. If they release the senerio editor in June, we can expect at least 5 _good_ senerios come october when the XP arrives. People will buy the XP, and come looking for senarios. Which will exist...

you're quite right there , still i stand by my other point as well, (yes i do believe/think they WILL release some kink of MP free!!) when is a different question offcourse
but hey we can hope