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  • Should the XP come with a new Modern Era?

    Most threads about the XP involve:

    1) MP
    2) More Civs

    I would like to see how much support is out there for remaking the modern era
    51
    Yes, the weakest of the eras needs more work.
    78.43%
    40
    No, its good enough so go mod your complaints
    15.69%
    8
    Who cares, you should've won the game already
    5.88%
    3

  • #2
    The Modern Era is badly designed. It needs an overhaul.

    I was thinking about doing a simple mod myself but now I will wait to see what the expansion brings.

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    • #3
      I couldnt vote for any, I think the modern era needs to be re-worked (patched) prior to the XP.

      The XP needs to expand the game not fix things that should have been right the first, second, or third times.
      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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      • #4
        I vote for no. I would rather see the existing eras improved and enhanced than add new ones.

        The modern era is considered by most to be the worst. I have read several people who quit playing after ancient or so. I think they definitely need to improve the current modern era, not make more of it!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by nato
          I vote for no. I would rather see the existing eras improved and enhanced than add new ones.

          The modern era is considered by most to be the worst. I have read several people who quit playing after ancient or so. I think they definitely need to improve the current modern era, not make more of it!
          I believe the yes vote is for redoing the Modern Era. Not extending another Modern beyond the first Modern (if that made sense),
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          • #6
            Oh I was looking at the bold type that said "new modern era". I thought it meant adding a whole new era, something like CTP's "diamond" era. My bad.

            Now that I read the poll options closer, the yes sounds like what I meant. I will vote for that in the actual poll then. Like I said, I agree modern era could use a little work.

            I know that late game exasperates the less fun aspects of 4x games, with so many more units and cities to manage. But still, it really does seem like the drop off in fun is higher than it should be.
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            • #7
              yes, redesign of the modern era would be more than welcome!
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              • #8
                I say that most of the eras do need work.

                1. Ancient Era... No problems here.

                2. Middle Ages... Magnetism and the Age of Sail come way too late. 10 turns after Galleons and Frigates, you get Ironclads and Transports. But I'd mod these so that they occur earlier. I'd also mod Navigation to happen earlier (as explorers also come too late).

                3. Industrial Age... Again, no problems come to my mind.

                4. Modern... Indeed, something needs to be done about modern era. It should gain greater importance.

                But I think that adding Near-Future and Distant-Future eras would also be an improvement. As well as being able to build on multiple planets, and encountering extra-terrestrial civs (even being able to play as an ET race).
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LordAzreal
                  But I think that adding Near-Future and Distant-Future eras would also be an improvement. As well as being able to build on multiple planets, and encountering extra-terrestrial civs (even being able to play as an ET race).
                  Thats for modders and scenario makers. If they could make more eras... hint hint?
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                  • #10
                    Absolutely... Modern Era is by far the weakest part of the game, especially cause you just don't get to play it in. A major uverhaul needed.
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                    • #11
                      Firstly, the Modern era needs to be longer to until 2100. Also, more units and city improvments need to be made available. And for the love of humanity make the diplomacy a little bit deeper than a glorified trade advisor.
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                      • #12
                        I don't quite think yet we need a future age like in CtP, but I would like a little bit of near future. BTW, where's the Cloning technology? We have already discovered this!
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                        • #13
                          IMO, the main flaw of the current modern era is, that you (and the AI) automatically have to go for the SS-discoveries. Therefore you almost never research Miniaturazation, Genetics or Robotics. At least I never got that far (maybe I use the wrong strategy?) and I would like to discover these advances as well.

                          Yes, I think the modern era needs rework, but I agree with SpencerH, it should be fixed in the current version, not in the XP.

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                          • #14
                            I think Solvers got a point, though space cities would be great
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                            • #15
                              Lucilla, I find the only way to go for the "fun" advances in the ME is when you've already battered all the other civs to one or two cities. Even if they have the tech, they never have enough production to amke a SS challenge meaningful, but the aim is to win, right, and who needs genetics to win ?

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