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    I'm playing Japan for the first time, and have stockpiled a lot of vet horsemen to upgrade to samurai. For some reason I can build samurai and upgrade other units, but my horsemen can't upgrade to either samurai or knights. Am I missing something?

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    Re: Upgrading to samurai.

    Originally posted by Txurce
    I'm playing Japan for the first time, and have stockpiled a lot of vet horsemen to upgrade to samurai. For some reason I can build samurai and upgrade other units, but my horsemen can't upgrade to either samurai or knights. Am I missing something?

    Download 1.21f.
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    • #3
      Samurai replace Knights.

      Are you sure you are trying to upgrade in cities with barracks?

      (Dumb question, but I had to ask!)
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      • #4
        I play on a Mac, so no 1.21f for me yet... but I didn't think this particular upgrade was a result of that patch.

        Yes, I'm trying to upgrade in cities with barracks. I can upgrade warriors into swordsman, but not horsemen into samurai.

        I could complicate the issue further by saying that I sailed halfway around the world in galleys to take a Chinese city for access to iron, but that is not the problem. I have connecting harbors, and the resultant ability to build samurai.

        It's weird.

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        • #5
          Stupid question 2:

          Do you have enough gold to perform the upgrade?
          (80 golds IIRC)

          AJ
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          • #6
            Yeah, I have around 800 gold. And trust me, I'm looking forward to the stupid question I didn't think of!

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            • #7
              #3

              Do you have Chivalry?
              The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

              Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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              • #8
                Yes, I have chivalry. As far as I know, that's why I can build samurai.

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                • #9
                  does the city that have the barracks have access to both iron and horses? if not you won't be able to upgrade

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                  • #10
                    Actually, I think you don't need horses, but it has access to iron, which is why I can build samurai. I just can't upgrade horsemen. (Buy yes, I do have access to horsemen - I can still build more of them.)

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                    • #11
                      I just returned briefly to the game, confirmed all f the above, and still no ability to upgrade. Maybe it's a bug in the Mac version of 1.17 - I'll bring it up in the Mac section.

                      I knew there was a reason why I had avoided playing as Japan.

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                      • #12
                        Firaxis' shot

                        I guess it indeed sounds like a bug.

                        Firaxis could/should clarify.

                        AJ
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                        - I'm back !!! (too...)

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                        • #13
                          Definitely a bug. I upgrade horsemen -> samurai all the time, both with 1.17 and 1.21.

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                          • #14
                            I was waiting for word from the Japan expert!

                            Now I'll contact Firaxis. Thanks, everyone.

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                            • #15
                              Can your ships not safely cross oceans yet? Even if you managed to hug a coastline or find a quick spot to run through with galleys the regular trade vessels won't. You have to wait till you get ships that cross ocean squares to begin to trade/share resources I think. Though if you can build swordsman/other units that need Iron I suppose you are getting it. Oh well, just a thought.
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