Oracle or Pyramids?

[Tingkai]

I'm just happy if I get either one.

[ixnay]

I managed to win my last game on emperor without building any wonders...by the end I only controlled 3 - Suffrage, Hoover, and Longevity...and I still won...it's definitely tough to get wonders on the harder difficulties.

[Coracle]

Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq
The pyramids give you the bonus of being able to outpace the AI land grab. The Oracle has the awesome culture potential, as Ironwood points out. As with most elements of the civ series, each has its place, depending on your game.

I never get either anyway - too busy claiming real estate, and nary a leader before better wonders have been available.

That's all Civ 3 is for the first several millennia - trying to grab real estate before the flood of AI settlers does. It is getting old and tedious.

If Firaxis had brains, they would allow us to toggle on and off the settler flood and, like a chess match, have different opening strategies by the AI, perhaps partly depending on the civ the human chooses. But all I do is build settler after settler turn after turn, while trying to block AI settlers and workers from wandering into my territory.

It really is tiresome. We need more AI options.

BTW, I beat the AI to the Great Library, and got five free techs as a result before it made itself obsolete by giving me Education (also dumb), but AI tech-whoring on the other continent still seemed to eventually make the GL no big deal.

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by Coracle
If Firaxis had brains, they would allow us to toggle on and off the settler flood

Uhhh... you would prefer them to not expand and be crushed by you? This was a problem in Civ2, the AI expanded to a point and left the rest alone, for you to take and crush the AI with. Hey, in "real life" nations grab as much land as they can. Maybe you just need to play on an easier level...

[lockstep]

Originally posted by Coracle
That's all Civ 3 is for the first several millennia - trying to grab real estate before the flood of AI settlers does. It is getting old and tedious.

I glanced at this phrase without noticing at first who posted it. I thought 'Must have been Coracle'.



Yep.

[dunk]

I would go for the Pyramids. They're neater looking.

[Solver]

Pyraminds are much pursued by the AI. However, on Pangaea maps sacrifice some expansion early to get them! Will pay off nicely.

[Fidel]

i never build pyramids, probably because i usually think of hitting water shortage instead of expansion.
now, oracle is a nice wonder, but nothing beats GL and the huge amounts of cash it brings

[DrFell]

Re: Re: Oracle or Pyramids?

Originally posted by punkbass2000


I'm pretty sure that in Civ1 the Pyramids didn't give you graneries. It gave you the ability to switch to any form of government without anarchy.

Yep, it was very powerful because of that. Any govt you like, as soon as you build it. It was cheap, too.

[Saurus]

The Pyramids is one of the wonders I newer have managed to complete - A.I players has always beaten me in doing so.

There are a few other wonders also I newer have built including the Oracle, Hanging gardens and Sun Tsu's war.

I guess there are some modern time wonders also I newer have built but in thruth I don't even remember what wonders are included in the modern era - mostly I just ignore them since they dont seem to serve any purpose at that stage.

-Saurus