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  • #16
    Originally posted by nato
    The Firaxis WALL OF SILENCE (TM) just doesn't give any reason for faith.

    Wake up! they're all over these boards.

    Originally posted by jimmytrick
    I voted for 5 because thats how many we will need. At least two more to get the game into playable shape for a beta. One after that to begin to implement, finally, some new concepts into the game and eliminate the awful ones...like culture. Two more after that for balance and maybe, just maybe, we will have something approximating a quality release.
    I think some people just come here to post negative things and don't bother finding out the truth.


    Oh, by the way I voted bananas because I have no idea until I get to see this patch.
    Sorry....nothing to say!

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    • #17
      And some people come here and post mindlessly positive things becasue they are not interested in the truth.

      I voted for an Infinite Number of patches - at least until they try to stick us with Civ 4, MP, XP, Scenarios, or some other beta product.

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      • #18
        Coracle. Of course. They're gonna suck all the money out of us they can get. And they will probably give patches to give the impression that Civ III has become better since it's release to counter some nasty reviews.
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        • #19
          I seriously doubt an infinite number of patches. Firaxis has no doubt better things to do than to patch CIV3 in absurdum.

          We will probably just see one more patch, then it´s expansion time. The expansion may contain a few minor changes like Alien Crossfire did.
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          • #20
            Grrr!! read jt's post, then mine, then yours, then mine...

            Now my money really is on 2 more. Even more is revealed that things are a work in progress. Mike is doing well with the editor, but much remains to be done.

            And to the people who can't be satisfied that this game is being supported by the designers, unlike so many other games, pfff, you are too stupid to know what is what so you are too stupid not to be on an ignore list.
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            • #21
              I think the number of patches will depend on how ambitious the XP changes will be. If the XP is a virtual re-design a la SMAC/SMACX it may take much longer to code therfore we may expect one or possibly two more patches. If the XP is just surface changes such as more units, civs, etc I wouldnt expect any more patches.
              We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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              • #22
                Wake up! they're all over these boards.


                I know that you are the resident Champion Defender (TM pending) ... but are you serious? "All over"?

                If the Firaxis guys are really here on their free time, then any time they spend here at all is very cool ... but I still don't think you could call it "all over".

                In any event, I am really talking about official communication ... I don't think it is remarkable to say that we don't hear much from Firaxis.

                Instead we have threads like this, to guess what they are doing. The very fact that threads like this are necesary proves the point.

                I don't think I'm a 'whiner' but communication could be much better, in that it could exist.

                Ah well, whatever ... not trying to start a fight.
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                • #23
                  I think the firaxians tend to lurk rather than participate. While I think that is a mistake, they are here (twilight zone music) and I think some of the elements of the patch prove they listen (except that lethal bombardment should have been applicable to the defender not attacker). The morning of the readme there were two firaxians present and answering questions.
                  We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                  If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by notyoueither
                    Grrr!! read jt's post, then mine, then yours, then mine...

                    Now my money really is on 2 more. Even more is revealed that things are a work in progress. Mike is doing well with the editor, but much remains to be done.

                    And to the people who can't be satisfied that this game is being supported by the designers, unlike so many other games, pfff, you are too stupid to know what is what so you are too stupid not to be on an ignore list.
                    With Firaxis being 'all over the place' I wonder ...


                    ARE YOU MIKE?



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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Kamrat X
                      I seriously doubt an infinite number of patches. Firaxis has no doubt better things to do than to patch CIV3 in absurdum.
                      Quite sure. At least their project manager do.

                      We will probably just see one more patch, then it´s expansion time. The expansion may contain a few minor changes like Alien Crossfire did.
                      I voted for ZERO. I suppose it's time for Firaxis to jump on a different wagon, i.e. the expansion or Sid's Dino rewamped

                      I don't mean I like the idea or not. I'm quite agnostic at the moment: I don't think any relevant change can really change my opinion about the game. I still try to like it as is and start a new game sometime to fill the time.
                      I can sometimes find an interesting game situation and play it till 3 AM while my alarm clock is set to wake me up at 6:30 AM
                      "We are reducing all the complexity of billions of people over 6000 years into a Civ box. Let me say: That's not only a PkZip effort....it's a real 'picture to Jpeg heavy loss in translation' kind of thing."
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                      • #26
                        I've lost faith in these guys. I voted "other", which means 0 - ?. In a D&D supplement a friend showed me the other day, something about evil characters, it descibed a skill called "craft shoddy product". I immediately thought of civIII and all these ucked fup patches. EVIL
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                        • #27
                          I've lost faith in these guys. I voted "other", which means 0 - ?. In a D&D supplement a friend showed me the other day, something about evil characters, it descibed a skill called "craft shoddy item". I immediately thought of civIII and all these ucked fup patches. EVIL
                          "Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you." No they don't! They're just nerve stapled.

                          i like ibble blibble

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by AJ Corp. The FAIR

                            With Firaxis being 'all over the place' I wonder ...

                            ARE YOU MIKE?



                            AJ
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                            • #29
                              I know this has been said before, but I have to say it again.

                              How many people here played Civ2 when it was first released? MGE is version 5.5, ToT is 4.?. Obviously, there was a version 1.0, but we never hear about it. Why? Because it sucked. But many people claim that Civ2 is the greatest strategy game of all time. Even though it sucked when it was first released. When Civ3 gets aroundto version 5-point-something, maybe you'll change your minds then.

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                              • #30
                                "bananas or strawberries"?

                                I like bananas with strawberries with ice cream with hot fudge...with nuts.

                                As for patches, I want no more than 1, and that's what I expect. I want to finally get an expansion pack with MP, a real scenario editor, more civs, more wonders and wonder movies with a spoken monologue. Hopefully by Xmas.

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