Collapse during Communism

[Cookie Monster]

Hi folks,

Just thought I'd give a quick update on what is happening in my current game.

When we last left I (Persia) was at war with the English and the Aztecs. I made peace with the English as I had punched them enough. It's been 20 turns since the war ended with them and they are still in communism. They're slowly regaining population but I must assume the people are all mad about being whipped.

The war with the Aztecs (the largest and strongest civ in my game) ended in stalemate. Just couldn't crack their defences. Peace was declared and I've been steadily building up my army. However my only source of aluminum ran out and now I look greedily at the Aztecs 3 sources of aluminum............

[ChaingKaiShek]

Originally posted by Zachriel


They should probably put some limit on drafting, but Russia not only survived the mass pop-rushing, but went on to defeat Germany in WWII (with allied help).

Gamewise, pop-rushing a lost city is not a terribly bad idea, a sour-grapes strategy, though it is a strategy I would not normally adopt.

I never denied that they did not accomplish amazing things since the USSR was 'founded'. They did many horrible things and they did things which were nothing more than great acomplishments. I mean afterall they became an' Equal superpower to rival the United states, they also formed a huge industrial base to back it all up with.

Anyway At the advent of Nationalism into Civ3, the AI drafts all it can from every city per turn, once they Get Communism they can draft (3?) instead of (1) so you'd notice the effects MUCH more quickly. I believe you'd notice the same collapse under Facist governments as well (If you had a mod which added a Facist government, they were not included with the released version were they?)

These again are just my own thoughts.

Chaing

[ChaingKaiShek]

Originally posted by Haupt. Dietrich
Hi folks,

Just thought I'd give a quick update on what is happening in my current game.

When we last left I (Persia) was at war with the English and the Aztecs. I made peace with the English as I had punched them enough. It's been 20 turns since the war ended with them and they are still in communism. They're slowly regaining population but I must assume the people are all mad about being whipped.

The war with the Aztecs (the largest and strongest civ in my game) ended in stalemate. Just couldn't crack their defences. Peace was declared and I've been steadily building up my army. However my only source of aluminum ran out and now I look greedily at the Aztecs 3 sources of aluminum............

I think the AI only will draft when they are at WAR with another Civ.. are the English currently fighting anyone else? I dont think you were seeing them rushing military units through forced labor but instead through the 'draft'.

Chaing

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by ChaingKaiShek


I think the AI only will draft when they are at WAR with another Civ.. are the English currently fighting anyone else? I dont think you were seeing them rushing military units through forced labor but instead through the 'draft'.

Chaing

Actually the world is at peace in my game. There are only four civs left year 1962. Me (Persians), English, Aztecs, and Iroquois. I have a spy in England and I can see their army size. They don't have much, about 30 units. Most of their strength is in longbowman and cavalry. The rest of the world is churning out tanks and jet fighters. I've made an MPP with the Iroquois and I've decided to try to start another war with the Aztecs because I need their aluminum!

Getting back to the communism thing. Englands land is still heavily improved despite the war. I wonder why they don't switch out of communism? My guess is that since the majority of their cities are still at size 1 they are staying put in communism.

[ChaingKaiShek]

Actually.. The english stay as in Communism because the mighty SID has told them that Being Communists is what they like best.

Chaing

[Cookie Monster]

[The Thinker]

Hmmm, When I veiw The English in the editor Infogames provided, it's showing Democracy as England's favorite government. I have paid much attention to England, my games tend to be open war with Germany and Culture war with Egypt. Would most of you agree England takes Communism when avalible?

[Willem]

Originally posted by CantRemPWs
How do I message a moderator so they can ban this kid from posting?

Just use the Ignore feature in your Control Panel. Works for me. If no one bothers replying to them, they usually go away and find some other place to spout off.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Willem
Just use the Ignore feature in your Control Panel. Works for me. If no one bothers replying to them, they usually go away and find some other place to spout off.

A PM to the mods work real well too

[Capt Dizle]

I have never intentionally insulted anyone, anything I post is just teasing. Hopefully none will be offended.

[notyoueither]

Unfortunately, many are offended jt.

sOK. Some of us know that you are the President of the SidMeier fan club in your other identity.

[player1]

Re: Collapse during Communism

Originally posted by Haupt. Dietrich
Ever since 1.17f the AI basically collapses during communist government.

Try lowering draft & pop rush penalities to 20 (use the editor).

I think that would fix the problem.

[Cookie Monster]

Re: Re: Collapse during Communism

Originally posted by player1


Try lowering draft & pop rush penalities to 20 (use the editor).

I think that would fix the problem.

Interesting, I didn't think of this. I guess I've learned to take advantage of the AI during communism. Maybe I should make some changes in the editor before the next patch to make the game somewhat challenging.

BTW I managed to kill off england. That left the Iroquois and the Aztecs left. By the time England fell however it was 2029. I was in second place score wise and lost the game to the Aztecs. They were just too big! Now that I have seen firsthand what communism does to the AI I think I'll do better the next game!