Poll:Does Civ3 challenge you mentaly?

[Spec]

I seen a lot of threads that says that ppl dont think Civ3 is not enough mentaly challenging. I think it's not a big challenge but not to much. How about you?

[Zouave]

CIV3 is certainly challenging, but this is mostly because of bonuses the AI gets on Monarch and higher. Sometimes, making up for these can be very hard. The AI's tactics could definately use some improvement. Managing corruption is one of my favorite parts of the game, and the planning of an efficient empire in less than stellar circumstances can often be difficult.

[Blaupanzer]

Requires detailed but flexible planning, player memory for a long number of turns, and a high level of aggressive play against an advantaged AI. I say that's a challenge, although not "brain frying." The new rules (culture, corruption, trade, diplomacy) have taken some getting used to, as well. Played Civ II on Deity all the time, a challenge with a non-ideal start, but not a huge mental challenge. Play Civ III on Monarch, big mental focus requirement, not winning half the time yet. That equals mentally challenging.

[ACooper]

No, but Libertarian does.

[GodKing]

In civ 2 I mostly played different scenarios. As we don't have that option yet... I am not playing the types of games I like the most. The AI is good. The stratagies are not simple & forward, thus requiring some good mental bookkeeping. I only win about 30-40% on monarch while in civ2 I won on diety 80-90%. Of course I had several years to learn civ2 and only a couple of months on civ3....

[Heliodorus]

Am I the Only One?

Is it too much to ask that we spell our thread topics correctly?
Am I being unreasonable to think that people should know the difference between "two," "too," and "to?" Can we leave the vowels in our words?

Is this what the future holds? If so, I guess I'll go try to wrestle my 15 minutes of fame from Beat the Geeks on the comedy channel and get it over with.

Grammar: the real mental challenge.

:and isn't it ironic that I had to edit this post because of a missing object:

[Spec]

Re: Am I the Only One?

Originally posted by Heliodorus
Is it too much to ask that we spell our thread topics correctly?
Am I being unreasonable to think that people should know the difference between "two," "too," and "to?" Can we leave the vowels in our words?

Is this what the future holds? If so, I guess I'll go try to wrestle my 15 minutes of fame from Beat the Geeks on the comedy channel and get it over with.

Grammar: the real mental challenge.

:and isn't it ironic that I had to edit this post because of a missing object:

Right on topic man!!!

[Aeson]

Civ3 is challenging, but not really in an intellectual manner. A few basic principals need to be understood and applied over and over again. The challenge is to keep a coherant strategy over the course of thousands of decisions. More a test of patience than anything else.

Grammar: the real mental challenge.

The real mental challenge is understanding those who use improper grammar. It takes much less intelligence to only understand a single form of communication, in this case proper English. The language skills of those who post here are quite impressive considering how many people on these boards don't speak English as their native tongue. Go sit in Yahoo chat for a few minutes and then come back to these boards, I'm sure the writing here will look much better!

[nationalist]

Re: Re: Am I the Only One?

Originally posted by Spectator


Right on topic man!!!

Amen

[cassembler]

Back on topic, yes, Civ3 at least utilizes certain parts of my brain, though I would like more of a logic type challenge (a la chess)

back off topic, I ate a good burger today.

"No sir, I assure you, I speak little to no English. You must have me mistaken for a companion back in your native lands."

[notyoueither]

Re: Am I the Only One?

Originally posted by Heliodorus
Is it too much to ask that we spell our thread topics correctly?
Am I being unreasonable to think that people should know the difference between "two," "too," and "to?" Can we leave the vowels in our words?

That's 1 2 many 2's 4 me dude.

Salve

[Ironikinit]

If these boards were sockpuppet friendly, I'd be tempted to make an account called "733t Nazi" and go around correcting posts that use standard English.

For example, NYE used "dude" rather than the preferred "d00d".

[Minuteman]

Civ III is very challenging, but it's no brain buster by any stretch of the imagination.

Like its predecessors, it contains just enough strategic depth to keep the average strategy gamer enthralled for hours, but doesn't bog your brain down with an excessive amount of micromanagement.

[Spiffor]

The game is sure challenging at higher difficulty levels (as a vet of Civ2, i have to be very cautious to what I do playing monarch level), but sure could be more deep : when you decide something, advantages and drawbacks are too simple : when choosing your gov., you arbitrate between war and money ; building something only has good consequences except the upkeep cost etc. The choices you make are not really intricate, thus not mentally challenging.
The real challenge comes from diplomacy, where pretty everything is intricate, and you have to think twice when offering something (should I offer them iron and let them build their armies or should I offer them money and let them research more ?). If they're more trade possibilities in the future (food, shields...), the challenge will be great !

[Ninot]

Just a note on what Minuteman said.

Like its predecessors, it contains just enough strategic depth to keep the average strategy gamer enthralled for hours, but doesn't bog your brain down with an excessive amount of micromanagement.

Im a mediocre amateur chess player, not great by any means, but i like to play a good game of it. It bogs down my brain to hell and back, but it doenst have micromanagement at all.

Micromanagement doesnt bog down brains. Brains bog down brains.

Now, i didn't just say that so i could say something cool, but I find it to be kinda true. It depends on how involved in the game you are. Now, in that vote at the top of the page, I can vote twice. It does fry my brain, cuz I let it fry my brain. I devote a great deal of thought to whatever Civ3 game im playing. Doesnt make me a worse or better player, i just like to throw myself more into the game, like every decision might be life or death.

However, I could also write a book while playing a game of civ3. But that has more to do with the excesively long AI turns. But thats for another board.....

Basically, i believe it is more the player that determines how mentally challenging a game can be. Of course, a game has to be quality to allow a player to give it that chance.

Oh, and just a quick note on what I think of Civ 3. When Germany outrageously and without reason, declares war with my peaceful civ not more than 50 turns into a game, I feel the AI must be thinking as hard as me, or harder. Just the spontenaity (sp?) of the AI is amazing to me sometimes. And, of course, the scripts they have sometimes for denying an offer keeps me around to lmao.

Hope i get some support.

Ninot