How many of you did not know about F7 or F11?

[Kevin Ar18]

F7 and F11 bring up a hidden feature (or so I think) in that you cannot get to them any other way and the game does not indicate that you can get to them.

I voted no, but I should have voted "yes, but not until someone told me" since I know about it now.

Personally, I didn't read through the manual. I only looked up things I needed and usually I found the civilopedia had better info than the manual, so I never knew this feature was there.

[Minuteman]

Re: How many of you did not know about F7 or F11?

Originally posted by Kevin Ar18
F7 and F11 bring up a hidden feature (or so I think) in that you cannot get to them any other way and the game does not indicate that you can get to them.

Huh? Doesn't F7 display the WOWs, and F11 display global demographics??? I must hit those keys 500 times per game. I don't think that they're as big a secret as you think they are.

Do you mean, by pressing F7 & F11 simultaneously something wonderful will happen?? Is that what you mean?

[Kevin Ar18]

No, I mean exactly that -- WOW and demographics. I want to see how many people knew about this feature without somebody telling them.

[Minuteman]

No offense, but I think that you may be underestimating the average gamer, and especially, the average civer.

Even for those who scarcely touched their manuals after installing the game, the simple act of playing a game like this will prompt you to explore your keyboard just to see what everything does.

[TechWins]

Um, none of your poll options fit for me. I found out about F7 and F11 by myself. I figured since F1-F6 all had a function I might as well try F7 and beyond to see if they had any functions and lone behold they did. Also, I found this out on my second game, but I could see how some may not have figured out the functions of the other F keys.

[Kevin Ar18]

I guess I just like intutive programs where all data is findable in the game through some menu or window. Oh well, now I know about the feature, so I guess it won't matter.

[Donnyb20]

For a while I did not know about F7 or F11 either, however I did end up reading it in the manual and also was very suprised that it was not a menu that you could bring up thru the advisor screen somehow. Especially since both of these menus are very useful to the player and was part of the menus in Civ 2.

[ACooper]

"Officer, I didn't know what the red sign meant. I didn't read the manual! Damn, Firaxis!"

[The Andy-Man]

u mean, these aint in the menu bars!!! jesus christ!!!!!!!

[MonsterMan]

They probably couldn't find a good place to put the buttons leading to those screens. There's a lot of commands, like shift+a, that u can only learn from the keyboard command lists in the manual.

[Spec]

Spec.

[davidttm]

Originally posted by Minuteman
No offense, but I think that you may be underestimating the average gamer, and especially, the average civer.

True enough. I think this question is more relevant to the SUB-average civer; someone like ME. I am only beginning to appreciate how much the keyboard shortcuts can help (I even played Civ II for a long time with just the mouse).

I do it because I'm lazy, but I think it also has something to do with a preference for mouse or keyboard (i.e. I don't have to put the beer down to fiddle with the keyboard).

At any rate, I did read the manual, but I did not memorize all the commands. I did assume that all keyboard commands would have a GUI link and that No Link = No Command. I'm sorry, really.

[sachmo71]

They're in the manual. Civ 3 sucks if you don't learn the hot keys, IMHO.

[Willem]

Well seeing how almost all the games I play have some sort of F key command, it just strikes me as second nature to press them and see what comes up. I don't know, maybe I'm weird that way.

[Zanzin]

I seem to recall finding out about them by experimenting with all the "F" keys to see if they did anything. And they did, so good!!

Also, I was wondering where the wonder screen and demographics screen was...they had to be there somewhere, right?