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**Azrikam** · February 20, 2002, 13:15

Sounds like a fleshed out version of Social Engineering in SMAC. Frankly, I think that works much better than the restrictive nature of a single government type.

Reworking and expanding the SE scheme would have been a much better idea for Civ III than modifying the govs from Civ II. (IMHO) Then, the options could be given sensible historical names to make it more realistic. As long as the options were well-balanced, people wouldn't need to create their own govs in the editor, because they could do it right there in the game itself.

Also, Civ's can tweak their governing habits without a revolution.

**geoffbland** · February 20, 2002, 13:37

I'd forgotten about the social engineering in SMAC. It is a similar idea but as you say fleshed out. I think my idea also gives a bit more "flavour" to the game - I found SMAC to be a bit souless.

It would be interesting to play as advances are found and governments slowly alter. Also the end game would be interesting with lots of flavours of different govs.
I just think the Civ idea of having 4 govenments is a bit dull. Compare a few real "Democratic" govenments for example, US, UK, old DDR, USSR, DR China, DR Congo just to get a favour of how much variety you could get.

**Azrikam** · February 20, 2002, 13:43

It also had a decent effect on diplomacy in SMAC, as some factions were pre-disposed to certain SE selections, and if you didn't follow their ideas, then they didn't like it.

Course, there was nothing stopping Firaxis from having the AI prefer to do business with like governments, and have a slightly lower opinion of the others. (pretty realistic, if you ask me)

Heck, maybe that's already in there. It can't be more than a couple of lines of code.

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More Governments? Or more flexibility?

More Governments? Or more flexibility?

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