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  • #16
    Yada Yada Yada...

    Yin is right. I have seen many folks here start off praising the game turn to beening critical of it. Others just dissappear. The number of people posting on the board is about half of what it would be if the game was even average.

    Facts are facts. Mark will move any thread he can to make it look better, but most of the comments in the general forum now are lamentations.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jimmytrick
      Yin is right. I have seen many folks here start off praising the game turn to beening critical of it. Others just dissappear.
      yeah, they are gone just before voting that they have goten their money's worth....
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      • #18
        Originally posted by jimmytrick
        Yada Yada Yada...

        Yin is right. I have seen many folks here start off praising the game turn to beening critical of it. Others just dissappear. The number of people posting on the board is about half of what it would be if the game was even average.

        Facts are facts. Mark will move any thread he can to make it look better, but most of the comments in the general forum now are lamentations.
        I'm in disacordance here (about Mark). I do agree what he puts out is mostly stuff against Civ III, but I think reasons are different than pure partialism. I think he's reasons are closer to limiting what he sees as whining with what he considers false arguments. I wont say I agree with each ban/closed thread individually (I in most (I think...) case agree with Yin once we un-metaphorize his texts so it says all...). But I know no forum host that is able to host without having a certain percentage that's not as one or other thought.
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        • #19
          I got my moneys worth from Civ3. If a game loads and runs and you play it for 8-10 hours then you have your $50 bucks covered.

          That doesn't make it a good game though.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Trifna
            I think he's reasons are closer to limiting what he sees as whining with what he considers false arguments.
            no no no, it's because i'm geting payed by firaxis. it's actually from the same account that they pay reviewers...
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            • #21
              The civ3 bashing is really getting repetitive and dare I say stupid!

              Sure civ3 has problems, some can be fixed by the editor, others would require more coding. But civ3 is not the "worst game ever". It has many trully great features that make a much much better game than civ2, like strategic ressources, trade, and unique units. Furthermore, in all my games I have never experienced these "out of the blue declaration of wars", "horrible pathfinding", or "AI cheating". So I don't know where they are getting all these stuff from.
              'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
              G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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              • #22
                Originally posted by jimmytrick
                I got my moneys worth from Civ3. If a game loads and runs and you play it for 8-10 hours then you have your $50 bucks covered.
                why do some people feel cheated though even if they played the game for a month?
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                • #23
                  Cheated? I am not saying I was cheated. I am saying that the game is not fun to play. I am saying that I am dissapointed that Firaxis(and Sid Meier personally) would have put out such a lackluster product as a sequel to one of the best games in history. I am saying that they should not expect to be able to count on their name to sell games to me anymore.

                  I am not saying I was cheated.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jimmytrick
                    I am not saying I was cheated.
                    "some people" != "you"

                    unless deep inside you "some people"="you"
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                    • #25
                      Mark, you didn't quote some people. You quoted me. If you are referring to someone else, please quote them to avoid confusion.

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                      • #26
                        Mark, you are being silly talking about reviewer being paid by Firaxis. Any idiot can see why reviewers have a vested interest in praising games. As for this forum and you Mark, why, of course traffic goes up if the game is popular and down if not.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by yin26
                          For strategy gamers, if you are a turn-based fan I actually say stick to Alpha Centauri or Master of Orion II, and pray they make a MOO3. Civ3 isn't the savior of this genre.
                          Hey, guess what, I was following his advice before knowing it!
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by jimmytrick
                            Mark, you didn't quote some people. You quoted me. If you are referring to someone else, please quote them to avoid confusion.
                            last time i checked, "some people" != "you" in the english language...
                            you are being silly talking about reviewer being paid by Firaxis
                            notice the use of a certain smiley
                            As for this forum and you Mark, why, of course traffic goes up if the game is popular and down if not
                            and somehow i have the power to make games popular? wow....
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by jimmytrick
                              Mark, you are being silly talking about reviewer being paid by Firaxis.
                              yeah, the publisher handles all those marketing details
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MarkG
                                "some people" != "you"

                                unless deep inside you "some people"="you"
                                Heh.... Mark you know you were talking about him... as well as others... you quoted him for christ sake! I could also say why do "some people" never criticizes a game when there are obvious flaws in it? and when people do "some people" always take offense at this criticizim.

                                Ohh... I wasn't talking about you........

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