If u hate this game....

[Spec]

Originally posted by Blackadar1


But obviously, you're an AOL user who uses AOL-speak, so you probably don't understand that.

Ummmm no! I got cable, I dont live in the U.S. and AOL sucks so dont judge to fast.

[Spec]

Ok, I get the point...from all of you ppl who answered politly. And to all of u thanks. But for the others, y'all got issues. I'd hate to ask you the time on the street one day. I think I know how it would go down. Let's see:

Spec:"Hey man, I'm sorry, do have the time"
Frustrated civ person:" NO!! I ain't got no freaking time!!! And your mother blows!"

Makes you feel just like if you where in New York right.

Dont take it personnaly all, I was just asking. I understand that when u wait for 3 years (or more) for a game and It ain't what u thought it would be, it pisses you off. I got the same feeling with twisted metal 3, but with Civ3, I didn't expect anything, I saw it on the shelf at Compucenter and bought it. That's all.

But I find it depressing that so much ppl get frustrated because the game wasn't at their expectation. It's a VIDEO GAME!!!! I come here to get tips on it but y'all take it to seriously. Dudes,
get a freaking life!!! Go see girls, buy a beer, get out of your rooms, see ppl but please dont get pissed off and ***** about a game, I'm sure all you frustrated ppl have much better things to do. Dont u like doing fun stuff? Like getting laid once in a while....Maybe your all virgins(those older then 18 of course! ), that's why your so pissed.

To all of u who answered like civilised ppl, I thank you, to the others, you know what I think.

BTW: Libertarian is the best example of pissed ppl. And, english is my third language so untill u can speak 4 fluently I suggest u STFU. Thank you.

Spec.

[Deornwulf]

English as a second language

Spectator, With the advent of spell checking software, English being your third language is no excuse for poor spelling. And as far as using teenspeak substitutions for common English words, expect to be judged (not judjed) harshly. The words you use are the first thing we see and therefore are upon what we will base all of our judgements of you.

To answer your original question:
My reasons for posting even thought I do not like the game is that there is not yet a Civ4 forum, I believe in the concept of freedom speech, and I feel that a general forum is the appropriate location to debate the merits and flaws of a game.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Spectator


But I find it depressing that so much ppl get frustrated because the game wasn't at their expectation. It's a VIDEO GAME!!!!

There's a lot of people on this forum for whom Civilization is more than just a video game, it's something of a passion. Myself, I've been playing it ever since the first one came out and it has always been my favourite game platform. I've no doubt spent far more time than I should have playing all the various incarnations. A good comparison would be European soccer. It's just a game, but sometimes the fans will riot in the streets if their team doesn't do as well as expected. And a lot of people were expecting more from this new version, which does have a number of flaws. Though I personally feel that those problems, at least most of them, will be dealt with eventually.

[Spec]

Re: English as a second language

Originally posted by Deornwulf
Spectator, With the advent of spell checking software, English being your third language is no excuse for poor spelling.

Yes it is.

[Spec]

I see what you're saying Willem, point taken.

[kimmygibler]

I mainly stop by here because I still want to give firaxis a chance to fix the game with a patch. Since they have repeatedly refused to give even a rough estimate on the date, I am forced to keep checking back a few times a week.

[Willem]

Originally posted by kimmygibler
I mainly stop by here because I still want to give firaxis a chance to fix the game with a patch. Since they have repeatedly refused to give even a rough estimate on the date, I am forced to keep checking back a few times a week.

It's pretty much impossible for them to provide a rough estimate. This is a very complex game, and as soon as you change something in one area, a problem might pop up in another. So they're not going to know how long it will take to find and fix the errors that might suddenly appear. Start changing a few of the parameters in the Editor and you'll see what I mean. Just a minor alteration in certain areas you probably wouldn't expect to cause a problem can cause the game to crash. And you wouldn't want that to happen would you?

[Brutus66]

You're dealing with some Civ fanatics here, Spec. Some of the folks here have 1000+ posts to the board, so you get an idea of whom you are dealing with. Some Firaxis people post now and then, but I think Sid Meier is afraid of this place (probably rightly).

As far as the spelling goes, if it's hard to read, you are irritating some folks no matter what the content of your message is. I would never bother with correcting anyone, but I will usually skip messages that are written poorly- I guess subconsciously I think that if it is written poorly then the thought behind it is suspect as well.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Brutus66
You're dealing with some Civ fanatics here, Spec. Some of the folks here have 1000+ posts to the board, so you get an idea of whom you are dealing with. Some Firaxis people post now and then, but I think Sid Meier is afraid of this place (probably rightly).

Wouldn't you be? You make a game and all ppl do here is smash it to the ground. I wouldn't come here for positive criticism, I'd look else where. It seems like if ppl here were looking to releave them selfs from their daily frustrations. I'm sure that's not what Firaxis is looking for.

[SlowwHand]

Re: English as a second language

[QUOTE] Originally posted by Deornwulf
Spectator, With the advent of spell checking software, English being your third language is no excuse for poor spelling. And as far as using teenspeak substitutions for common English words, expect to be judged (not judjed) harshly. The words you use are the first thing we see and therefore are upon what we will base all of our judgements of you.
/QUOTE]

Wait a minute. Time out. Hold the phone.
Until I see better spelling from the "English as a main language used" people, I believe I'll admire the job he does.
One example, and I'll stop with one.
I see something like "I hate to loose all the time".
Jeezus! "Loose" is "not tight". To not win is "lose".
Now. No more sanctimonious crap about the ability to write and/or speak fluently in English.

Thank you for your time.

[kimmygibler]

"It's pretty much impossible for them to provide a rough estimate. This is a very complex game, and as soon as you change something in one area, a problem might pop up in another."


That is fine. Here is what I would like them to do. Back after the first patch say something like "next patch will be out no sooner than December." If something changes then I can come back in December and see a new message saying "setbacks caused a three week delay." Then I come back in three weeks....


I think the only reason that they avoid doing this is because of the idea that everyone will get even more upset if they promise a date and don't come through. I don't want them to make any promises. Just say something like "check back in another month" or something. As it is, we have no idea. Wouldn't everyone here like to know what is going on. I for one could live with the disapointing setbacks without pointing blame on firaxis. It would be much better than no info whatsoever. I mean we don't know whether a patch will be out tomorrow, in a month, or even if there will be another patch.
Remember ctp2, after the first patch everyone was set for another as there were still problems. We waited, knowing that surely another patch would come. Then Activision basically said "well we can't fix it, so there will be no more patches."

Main problem for me is that I have to keep checking back here every once in a while to see if the patch is out. Firaxis, throw us a bone.

[Willem]

Re: Re: English as a second language

[QUOTE] Originally posted by SlowwHand

Originally posted by Deornwulf
Spectator, With the advent of spell checking software, English being your third language is no excuse for poor spelling. And as far as using teenspeak substitutions for common English words, expect to be judged (not judjed) harshly. The words you use are the first thing we see and therefore are upon what we will base all of our judgements of you.
/QUOTE]

Wait a minute. Time out. Hold the phone.
Until I see better spelling from the "English as a main language used" people, I believe I'll admire the job he does.
One example, and I'll stop with one.
I see something like "I hate to loose all the time".
Jeezus! "Loose" is "not tight". To not win is "lose".
Now. No more sanctimonious crap about the ability to write and/or speak fluently in English.

Thank you for your time.

That's a very good point. Unfortunately, with English currently being the predominant language on the Internet, it's easy to lose sight of the fact it may not be the most comfortable one for many people online to use. Even those of us who are familiar and comfortable with it don't always use it well. So it's certainly more than fair to allow for some leeway, without jumping down someone's throat if it's not being used properly. And I beg forgiveness for doing so myself. Thrash me with a thousand lashes from an acid coated whip.

[- Groucho -]

Don't let the bastards get you down, Spectator. You're right. It is just a game and its a pretty enjoyable one at that. I've played most of the Civ-type games and I see this game as an improvement. Is it a religious experience? No. Did it cause me to orgasm when I opened the box? No. But, oddly enough, I wasn't disappointed by that. I guess my expectations were lower than those of others.

[SlowwHand]

English is far and away the most difficult language to learn.
No, I have no internet site reference for you.
You'll just have to take my word for the fact.