Disenchanted - Modern Era

[Kinnie]

I might use artillery more if you could assign a tank or two to them for protection. I'm always leave them uncover and then lose them.

[barefootbadass]

Originally posted by Willem


It seems to me that's part of the problem with combat as it is now, the retreat aspect is to powerful. If there were terrain restrictions, then this ability wouldn't be nearly as overwhelming. You could even set up ambushes, by being able to predict which square a Knight will have to retreat to and having a unit nearby to provide him with a "warm" welcome when he arrives. Forests are a good example, there should be no retreat possible if they're the only type of square available to move into. IMO, retreat should only be possible onto Plains/Grassland, maybe Floodplain. Everything else would be a no go zone for retreating units.

Its not really too powerful, the problem is that the ai doesn't adequately use it and doesn't know how to defend against it. Artillery and bombers are equally as 'too powerful', again meaning that the ai can't use them as well as the human. The retreat option will be fine in MP, and good as it will make the defense more interesting than just putting high defense infantry in the city.

[Gromit]

Originally posted by Cunctator
The way artillery and air mission are modeled is indeed an improvement. May be they should be strengtheened so that is really difficult to conquer cities without air superiority or a strong artillery force. At least this require a building plan other than "build the best attacking unit".

The introduction of units bonus like the 25% infantry bonus attacking cities or specialization would add depth to combat system.

What the game really misses about warfare is ZoC. Without ZoC the map is no more a variable in the war equation. So no need to occupy stategic positions of the map, no fronts; only big stacks thrown against the next city

I agree with most of what you say. But the ZoC thing really got up my nose while exploring in the previous versions. Where the AI would decided to forget where it was going and instead, try like a small child asking for some sweets, to corner your unt. And then fortify and just wait for you to disband it. I started so many wars 'cos' of that. Maybe if it only applied to Warring civs or from the Industrial Era onwards, I could
live with it.

[Special_Olympic]

What the game really misses about warfare is ZoC. Without ZoC the map is no more a variable in the war equation. So no need to occupy stategic positions of the map, no fronts; only big stacks thrown against the next city

Yes, the game is useless without ZOC. The combat is stupid and lacks any tactics.