disasters anyone?

[GePap]

Why does the Civ line generally ignore disasters? MOO, MOO2, SMAC all had random occurences, so why not our game? Yes, we havee 'disease' which appears here or there, but is not much of a challenge. I say, that for a more interesting and , dare I say it, realistic game, we should have random events in civ3 (of course, like in MOO or SMAC, as optional. For those with guts! )

Some suggested ramdom events are:
Earthquake/volcano: happens near mountains. Kills pop. and destroys city improvements
Floods: happens on floodplains/next to rivers. Pillages squares near city, destroying infrastructure.
Tsunami: same as flood for coatal squares.
Drought: anywhere but more likely on 'dry' terrain. For x turns all squares produce -1 food.
Epidemic: (improved disease) anywhere: for x turns, a 50%chance of loosing 1 pop. point per turn.

For real players: Plague: anywhere. Starts as epidemic in one city. Every turn, a 80% chance that it will spread to another city connected to city 1 with roads. It will spread exponentially after that and to any cities connected (including enemy cities). This neat little effect could always be modifed by gamers to create bio-weapons.
Also, the harder the level, the more random events- if you want to be a diety, well, you better deal with acts of God.

[Kolyana]

Yes, I'd like to see this as an addition to the game. It could easily be an optional feature.

[Blaupanzer]

Sid had some of this in Civ 1, with some improvements preventing the occurance (walls stopped floods, aqueducts disease, temples volcanoes, not sure anything worked on earthquakes). Not sure why it was dropped in Civ 2.

[Terser]

Nuclear plants can still suffer meltdowns, can't they? It ain't natural, per se, but it is a disaster.



So there!

[civ-n00b]

disaster anyone?

i've seen two disasters so far:
1) my spelling
2) a nuclear plant meltdown... grrrr. 10 population units lost, tons of pollution (in mountains too!) and ... well... 100 captured workes to spare

[Monoriu]

I am pretty sure that I have lost a city improvement or two in civ 1 due to disasters.

I didn't like the concept. Its really completely random and there is nothing I can do about it. Also, its always something bad. Why can't I get a free improvement, or some gold?

But like I said about combat, if you want an editor option for it, fine

(I am beginning to feel that I should abuse this phrase more)

[GePap]

Good ones too...

Hey Monoriu:
We could include some good events also:

Gold Rush: near hills: Get 50 gold, new source of gold appears.
Brilliant architect: Anywhere: Finishes the item in building queue (except for those things that can't be rushed)
New Brewery: Anywhere. For x turns, city in WLTKD, regardless of any other factors

[Venger]

I thought the combat system was a disaster...

Anyways, I posted a thread on this a while ago - I also miss the Civ disasters. They didn't do much damage, they were just one of those small things that when added with other small things made the game so incredible...

Venger

[cassembler]

IIRC, the disasters in Civ 1 destroyed a random improvement, or at least killed a pop. point. I like the idea of the "good" disasters (the gold rush, etc). HOWEVER, I'd hate to be on the virge of taking a key city on Diety level and some ****in random earthquake foils my plans...

$.02

[Venger]

They usually either stole gold (Thieves have broken in to the treasury in X and stole X gold, citizens demand a BARRACKS) or took a city population down a notch (Flood ravages X, citizens demand CITY WALLS).

It was just the right flavor, and it of course encouraged building infrastructure...

Venger

[GePap]

Tough it out

As you can see from my suggestions, i think much bigger events are warranted. Many a civ was brough down not by man but by nature. And lets not ignore the wrenching socio-political consequences of mass epidemics, both for the new world and during the black plague. Again, if people envision themselves as great leaders, they should be able to handle some real crisis, not a diplomatic one, but a natural one. I say make it a feature so people who don't like sruprises don't get them. I wonder were al those persons who defend the combat system with 'a little randomness is fine' are? This would really make them happy

[Evil_Eric_4]

If there were disasters I would want an option to disable them.

I always disabled them in MOO2 cause programers think its fun to make them hit succesful civs most often.Gee my reward for doing well is an earthquake?no thanx.
I also turned off the anterans attack option.thats just me though.

[Monoriu]

Re: Tough it out

Originally posted by GePap
As you can see from my suggestions, i think much bigger events are warranted. Many a civ was brough down not by man but by nature. And lets not ignore the wrenching socio-political consequences of mass epidemics, both for the new world and during the black plague. Again, if people envision themselves as great leaders, they should be able to handle some real crisis, not a diplomatic one, but a natural one. I say make it a feature so people who don't like sruprises don't get them. I wonder were al those persons who defend the combat system with 'a little randomness is fine' are? This would really make them happy

BTW I hate your brewery suggestion......those of us who don't drink certainly won't celebrate something like THAT

[GePap]

Well bakery

Monoriu:
then lets change it to bakery (who doesn't eat cake?)

[Monoriu]

That's much better