So *this* is how mutual protection pacts work...

[kmj]

Originally posted by Chronus
I'm of the understanding that a UU victory MAY start a Golden Age but not AUTOMATICALLy. Am I wrong?

You're right. Also, wonders may trigger a golden age... I think each one has a chance of triggering for each type of civ (i.e., religious, scientific, etc.)

[tomcat ha]

i had very cool thing.
i was playing the americans.
i was going realy good.
then the aztecks (or whatever ) declared war on me .
i wasn`t a superpower but i had good frends and signed a mutal protection pact with 5 of them
all at the same level as me
and we kicked there but very hard
that was soo much fun
hehehe.

[Cian McGuire]

Raleigh, this applies for ALL civilizations: As soon as one of your UU's win in a battle (according to Kekkonen only if your unit is the attacking one, though, which would make it difficult for the Greeks since thier UU is the Hopolite 1.3.1), your Golden Age starts.

Slaughtering barbarians has no effect either

[Elucidus]

Hmmm. So how is it americans would get their GA? An F-15 can't destroy another unit and Air Interception is broken. Does blowing up a building count?


Also I can confirm that is the way a MPP works, at least if the nation doesn't want to get involved. I had a MPP with the French, Chinese, and the Egyptions. I invaded India. I took one city and sat in there to rest up. Well, guess what? That is now my territory. The very next turn all my MPP-friends declared war on India. Pretty cool.

[Avahz_D]

Originally posted by Elucidus
Hmmm. So how is it americans would get their GA? An F-15 can't destroy another unit and Air Interception is broken. Does blowing up a building count?


Also I can confirm that is the way a MPP works, at least if the nation doesn't want to get involved. I had a MPP with the French, Chinese, and the Egyptions. I invaded India. I took one city and sat in there to rest up. Well, guess what? That is now my territory. The very next turn all my MPP-friends declared war on India. Pretty cool.

America would get their GA from distroying another air unit, BUT seeing that that is bugged the only other way is via a wonder...

[Zanzin]

Originally posted by Kekkonen

Zanzin: you can only have one golden age per game (and even that one isn't guaranteed; I played a game as the Russians where I had no access to saltpeter, hence no cossacks and no UU victories).

Thanks for the info. I'm playing as the Germans at the moment, got my golden age early on through a wonder (great wall, I think). Pity I won't get another one!

[D4everman]

I wish I had read this thread earlier because i just found this out myself ten minutes ago. Luckily i was saving every turn, because I want to guage how long it takes for war weariness to affect my democracy.

Long story short....I'm the indians, in a war with the iroqious, that they started. MPP's kicked in and a lot of civs were involved. So I made alliance with those that weren't involved to help me crush my enemies. Well, the japanese turned on me, even though they weren't involved in the initial conflict. I got pissed and destroyed the units they sent into my territory. No problem.

But then I sent a battleship to bombard their coastline. Uh-oh, Spaghettio's!

All of the nuetrals I had allied with turned on me because they had MPP's with japan! Whatta revoltin' development. So apparently its okay to smack japan around if they're in my territory, but not if I attack them in theirs. This would be cool if Air Superiority worked!

As it is they are free to smash my roads and improvements from the air in nearby cities and I can't take out the cities without everyone else declaring war on me.

FIRAXIS- FIX THIS BUG