How do we punish Firaxis?

[Pacific_Wing]

Re: How do we punish Firaxis?

Originally posted by Spartan_RawB
How do we punish Firaxis and other companies involved for this blatant act of corporate irresponsibility and stupidity? I'm quite angered that they actually thought they could get away with this. Consumers must take action to punish this type of corporate behaviour, or they tacitly approve that they can be sold a piece of lemon like this.

Rise to arms, my fellow civers and list some ideas here!

Quack quack quack.

Given that this is a civilization fan site, I wouldn't think it to be the brightest idea to post anti-civ propaganda on its forum. Maybe you should start your own forum; however, I doubt you have the drive or ambition to do anything more than post idle complaints on a forum that already exists. Quit asking what we (the civ fans) are going to do about it; get off your ass and do something about it yourself.

Cheers,

-Pacific_Wing

[Fried_Onions]

I love this game. It's so good I'm going to use my own money and buy it.

[klesh]

Originally posted by The Templar
Stick your head in your cookie tin, shut the f*** up, and get the hell out of these forums. Your the last person who should throw stones. Go play with your cookies they way I play with your mom.

Boy, I sure am glad that our wonderful site has been diluted by the likes of thousands of new 'members' like this guy.
Wonderful points you made, sir.

-FMK.

[techumseh]

Originally posted by MarkG
you mean like the ones posted on this site?

Indeed!

[bahoo]

Originally posted by SuiteSisterMary

Having read this drivel, I feel punished.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. Otherwise, quit assuming that you have some divine right to satisfaction.

I wouldn't have bought it, had there been a DISCLAIMER on the box that said the following:

Warning, this is the beta version, do not buy if you want a fully functional game.

Warning, in spite of this being the beta version, and you paying good money, we won't even give you the satisfaction of giving you a date when we will Patch it so you can actually play the game the way it's supposed to.

Warning, in later phases of the game, regardless of how powerful your computer is, expect to spend 2+ minutes per computer turn.

Warning, this is repackaged Civ2 except we took out the cool wonder movies (because "no on watches them anyway", translatated as "they're too expensive and time consuming to make"), fundamentalism and added a few features, like airplane stuff, that doesn't work.

Warning, you won't be allowed to make simple decisions for your civilization because wise city governors will be making them, example; build swordsmen during the modern age.

Warning, you're cities may up and overthrow you because your neighbors have a church, and there is nothing the mass of gun-toting soldiers in the city can do about it.

and finally

Warning, if you buy this LE edition all you get extra is a cheap paper tree and a cool cookie tin.


Put those on the package when you ship it, and maybe we wouldn't be here complaining after having already bought the game.

[Frito]

Originally posted by bahoo
Warning, in later phases of the game, regardless of how powerful your computer is, expect to spend 2+ minutes per computer turn.

I've never had to wait over 20-30 seconds on my machine so I'd doubt its the games fault.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by techumseh
Indeed!

but this is a fan site not a "anti-fan" site

[Howling Chip]

I think Firaxis has been punished, as much as you're really ever going to see. If Soren has a soul, he feels bad when he reads some of the angry Firaxis posts. He feels embarrassed about things like the million dollar bug. He feels frustrated when air interdiction works when he tries it, but does not seem to do anything when we play a game. And then their's probably Sid, if he has a mean side, chewing out some personnel.

Only people at Firaxis are negatively affected by how this game was released.

The corporate entity of Firaxis/Infogames has met their commitment and/or is making money.

The people that worked on making this game made a game in the deadline given that functions, is playable, is different from CIV II in several aspects, and needs a fix or two. IMO CIV III does not need a massive overhaul to the combat and corruption system it introduces. These two items are what differentiate CIV II from CIV III. Some people will like the new paradigm, some people won't.

I am satisfied with this release of CIV III. I like the concepts in the game, am enjoying it, and look forward to a patch.

[sachmo71]

Originally posted by t0mme
You lame f*ckers!
It's easy to complain, isnt't it? It's obvious that you all don't know how it is to make a damn good game as Civ III. First all the Firaxis-programmers spends years of developing and programming. And when they're finished, all the "fans" do is complaining. Don't you suckers know that a game without bugs is impossible to make, especially when it has to run under Windows ****.
A real Civ-gamer respects this new Sid Meier creation. If you don't like it, you're not true Civ-gamers. I started playing Civ from the early beginning. I know everything about Civ II and I even played Civ: CTP (it's not a Sid Meier game, but still fun to play). And I must say; Sid Meier rocks and you so-called "fans" are the biggest idiots alive!

I am sorry, sir, but you have no right to tell people how to feel. Some of us will miss $50, and expect to get some satisfaction from their purchase. I am enjoying the game, but clearly the original poster is not. You have no right to insult him, or anyone for that matter, for having an opinion.

[TCO]

Re: He has a point.....

Originally posted by Cavalier_13
You know, the original poster has a point.

Games companies, not just Firaxis, but all of them save the rare exception put out the game after it is 75% complete. The final beta testing is being done by the paying customer and that is just wrong. This is true, and you just need to look outside of the gaming industry for examples.

If GM or Ford or Honda would produce a car that is 75% finished, consumers would be in an uproar.

What's your problem, whiner?

Just wait until the game's patched before buying it! That's what I do.

[Wrong_shui]

Originally posted by Setsuna
Unless someone can give me a reason otherwise, I place the blame squarely on Infogrames, not Firaxis.

Listen to setsuna, hes totaly right.

[TheDarkside]

Re: Re: He has a point.....

Originally posted by Blisterz



Well, a 75% finished car would kill someone, no patching no expansions nothing, just dead...

A game can be fixed and can be made to work better.
As long as you don't have to pay for the patch then I don't see what the big deal is.

Just my 2 cents...

Yeah, let's see how much the "multiplayer patch" sells for

[Rasbelin]

This discussion has turned into something useless. Newbies are trying crack on others. Looks I'll back off before they start to use baseball bats.

[sachmo71]

Originally posted by Rasbelin
This discussion has turned into something useless. Newbies are trying crack on others. Looks I'll back off before they start to use baseball bats.

You really can't stand all the new people on this board, can you? I have seen lots of "VIP's" (wasn't that your word?) cracking on each other. What I have taken from this thread is that some people are fed up with the current state of software releases, and the fact that this is one of the more eagerly anticipated games ever really drives that point home. Sorry you can't see that. BTW, can I borrow a kleenex? I know you have a huge supply...

[Cavalier_13]

Re: Re: He has a point.....

Originally posted by GP


What's your problem, whiner?

Just wait until the game's patched before buying it! That's what I do.

What's my problem? What is my problem?

People like you are my problem. People who call others whiners when a well thought out citique is put out to not inflame or hurt but to inform people.

Why should I have to wait until the game is patched before I buy it? Am I not allowed to expect a product labeled, and I quote from the official www.civ3.com website,

"Rewrite History with the Greatest Game of All Time
Witness an epic adventure unfold before you as you wield the ultimate power and reinvent the history of Civilization. "

Now, after a claim like that, am I not allowed to expect more from the game? If the quote stated "Rewrite History with the Greatest Game of All Time once we patch it a few times", then I my expectations would be different.

And as to you, sir, thou art a troll.

Cavalier