Have Game, will review!

[Imran Siddiqui]

So, I got the game, played it for a few hours and I say, IT ROCKS (what, you thought I was going to say it sucks ). No, actually, it was pretty damned good so far. I'm the English so far (on a random map), I'm on an island (with the English? Surprising ). with mostly tundra, so expansion is a bit hard. I'm playing on Warlord, btw, and it took a while, but I found the main continent and met up with with the Egyptians. They seemed cordial. They were impressed with my culture, so they were nice to me. It seems the higher your culture, the more impressed your neighbors are, and thus less hostile. Very cool!! Anyway, I'm still in the Ancient Era (and 480 BC, IIRC), so I'm still seeing what is going on .

I got the LE, and the tin was pretty nice. The tech tree was small, but pretty nice actually. Not as good as SMAC or Civ2, but pretty good. Missing the designer notes, even though it says it is there on the back of the box .

Oh, well... I'm still collecting research for my review. But all looks well. Graphics nice, haven't really seen the AI. Be back soon .

[Imran Siddiqui]

And alt-tab works amazingly! I've been posting and playing... very smooth transition!

[TCO]

Imran,

Since you can't beat Civ2 on deity, how can we respect your reveiw...or you as a human being?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Bah! I play game to have fun... I don't put the be all and end all on winning and losing .

[Imran Siddiqui]

First major problem:

Resources are spread too bare. There has to be a way to increase the amount of resources on the map. In my game as England, I'm on an island with NO strategic resources (I'm at gunpower). I have to trade silk to the Indians for iron, and I can't get saltpeter, because the Persians are the only ones that have it (that I know about) and they don't have any extras.

So, I'm just lying here, bored in my game, really. Hopefully all the oil in the world ends up where I am .

[Imran Siddiqui]

Map scrolling has been jerky all night. I assume it'll continue like this, but it isn't a big problem.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Time between turns is getting insufferable. Glad they have alt-tab, because I'd go crazy if I was just watching the screen for a few minutes. At least I can post in between the long delay.

I just researched Democracy, to give you a feeling of the time passage. NO WARS yet. My culture must still be fairly high. And I don't want war... haven't been able to secure saltpeter, meaning no gunpowder units, also mean no Man-o-War . I'm missing out on my UU! Bad resource model! I'm sooo going to edit this.

[yin26]

Yes, I have seen the resource 'problem' as well, being stuck on an island only with one other civ. I realize I should send a boat around or something. I suppose I can see that as my fault. Still, it's a question mark for now.

I know what you mean about being bored and the turns taking too long the deeper you go. I'm still watching that element closely.

Wow. Imran with a balanced review ... and me, too! Look outside: Is it the end of the world? LOL

[Imran Siddiqui]

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine .

DAMN, it is taking a long time (Anarchy wise) to switch from Republic to Democracy!

And I'm just playing through this game to see if, say, all the oil in the world is in my borders or something. Because it just isn't right, if this chunk of land (which has plenty of tundra, I'll admit) has NOTHING. So far the only thing on the island is silk, and I've used that to trade... that's how I can make iron units. But I think I've run out of silk to trade and no one has saltpeter to give.

Frustrating sure... but I ain't ending my game. Wouldn't get a good view of the game this way. Hell, I'm going to write a review. Play a good games with the bad.... but if I'm not on a continent next time...

edit: And did I say that the AI expands like bunnies?! WOW!

[Jason]

Perhaps Pangea maps would have less of a resource problem, depending on the number of civs. My 'development time" testbed game without opponents actually involved some hunting around just to get the equipment for railroad.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Funny this is, even with lack of resources, and a pretty boring game I have going now... I can't stop playing .

How the Hell did it get to be 3:44! I'll go to bed after this turn... .

[Grim Legacy]

Yes, I also found that isolationinst play is virtually impossible, due to the fact that you won't be able to secure the needed resources. I am currently in a game with a sizeable Kingdom (Monarchy, heh) consisting of 9 cities without overlap... and yet I fear lack of resources later on.
I was deligthed to see horsies appear, under my roads even! Trade is difficult though, as the major centres are overseas.

Needless to say I hastened to build some galleys!

[OneFootInTheGrave]

I don't have the game yet...

but if you are isolated, you should be going for a culture kill. Beef up the production with workers, and build temples libraries, world wonders etc. Civs that have neighbours have to spend resources on fighting and that seems to me might be the isolationist advantage.

If you have really high couture it might be impossible that some average sea invasion captures and keeps one of your cities.
Just curious. What do you think?

[Dan Magaha FIRAXIS]

Re: I don't have the game yet...

Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
but if you are isolated, you should be going for a culture kill. Beef up the production with workers, and build temples libraries, world wonders etc. Civs that have neighbours have to spend resources on fighting and that seems to me might be the isolationist advantage.

If you have really high couture it might be impossible that some average sea invasion captures and keeps one of your cities.
Just curious. What do you think?

This is a very good point. Don't mean to threadjack this review thread, but cultural warfare really doesn't require access to any resources, so if you're stuck in a place with few resources, you might want to consider trying to expand culturally.

It's also nice to get other civs to attack each other. I've had a few games where I survived a lot longer than I should have by pitting two civs against each other and then backing off and letting them waste all their production fighting each other.

Dan

[OneFootInTheGrave]

i can't wait to try this out.
ugh another 13 days...