JADED CIVERS THREAD; super kewl/radical newbies keep out.

[ProfessorPhobos]

Originally posted by Sarcastro


The "quote" tag only grabs words with some actual value. For instance, ad-hominem arguments don't get quoted. Unfounded assertions and refusals to make any concrete points are also left out. It's a UBB-streamlining thing.

Boy howdy did you earn your name there, man. That was impressive sarcasm. :::Round of applause.:::

[Sinapus]

Originally posted by Zylka
...and yes Sinapus, I'll admit that they fixed a few logistic flaws of number 2 as well.

But honestly... instead of getting a world map of Europe, we get a 3-D (!!! !!!) animation of a caveman warrior playing a carnival game. Multiply that concept by a thousand, get my drift?

Yes, you don't like it so you're venting. You also seem a bit miffed that other people do not share your viewpoint.

Since I tend to use randomized maps, I don't find your gripe to be important. Sorry.

Odd, I don't recall saying anything about how nifty (or annoying) the graphics were.

[Sinapus]

To make Zylka feel happy I'll add a gripe.

The game tends to freeze or be unable to accept some commands (like holding down the shift key to select a research path) if I play it while I have other applications running in Win98, so I can't follow your missives on the forum and play at the same time. Bummer.

Otherwise, I'm afraid I cannot share your utter dissatisfaction, Zylka.

[Changmai Beagle]

Jason, I'm rather hoping Zylka isn't a Westerner. (Also expecting, as we would tend to talk about Eastern Canada as meaning Ontario and Quebec and speak of the maritimes as the Far East).

Therefore, he wouldn't likely be a typical Reform or Alliance member.

Besides - we in the West have many common views with the Maritimers.

P.S. It's high time you got your offshore mineral rights! It took us from 1867 to 1930 to get equal treatment - but we finally did.

[Changmai Beagle]

Actually, before I got off topic - I just wanted to agree with previous posters... Being a settler doesn't mean lack of Civ experience.

[Ballz1998]

Someone mentioned earlier. . .

that they want to build their own unique civ instead of choosing a "type"... well you can.. just turn off the individual strengths option when you start a new game.

I don't think Civ has been dumbed down (I have yet to finish my first game). So far it seems like Civ has been made more newby friendly, yet retains a good deal of depht. Although I would have to agree with people on the worker micro management. However... I'm beginning to think that maybe its not suck a bad idea to let the workers automate. I just put them near a city and hit Shift-I (makes them work the city area and allows them to change terrain improvements)... the workers seem to improve more efficiently than I do... I think there is something to be said about mines on grassland/plains. I've noticed the workers seem to irrigate the optimal amount provided there is fresh water around... Then again maybe im just trippin

Many of the gripes I hear about can be solved by reading the manual/civilpedia... many however cannot... feel free to ask if something can be done or not before proclaiming bug status on it.

[Zylka]

Sinapus - I really did mean it when I said they solved some logistics problems of number 2, and was trying to reitorate my dissatisfaction politely.

P.S.






BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Jason]

This notion of identifying people who disagree with you as (this is the classic term) fanboys is BS. I wouldn't use age of kings or other RTS to wipe my arse, thanks. The animation is cute but entirely unimportant to me. It looks ok, clean, good enough. The stuff underneath the city is the visual improvement I care about.

Someone drew a stupid map, hooray. A little unimportant compared to no MP or editor? The indications from the dev team comments is that the editor they are gonna patch (although they said if and when) and the MP it sounded like Infogrames wanted to sell to us later. Which blows.

Meantime, this is a very good SP game. I'll suck it up and buy MP when it comes out if they do that. Running around declaiming my outrage to the heavens isn't gonna fix it.

As for the crack he made about Eastern Canada? I pointedly DIDN'T make any comments about Alberta or the Reform party until someone else brought the subject up. I know Albertan Liberals (They exist!) and Albertan Reformers and they are both fine people. Judging people by their province is beyond laughable. I don't care for the party but peope I judge by what they say and do.

The comments were offensive, but just quoting them is rebuke enough; a little personal monument of stupidity. Even in a bad mood I wouldn't say something like that, say to someone from NFLD or something. Is it supposed to offend me, an essentially lower upper-class or upper middle class academic? It makes me a little sad I guess... Nova Scotia is fairly affluent except for fishing and former industrial areas, but some people have fairly... simple economic world views.

At any rate, that has nothing to do with Civ3. Friend of mine played it for a few hours and has decided to get it too. So long as the editor and MP are released ASAP with as little trouble as possible I'll have fun. I won't like having to pay, but I can, because the games are good. I'm not going to get a froth up over it.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I've got £10 that says Zylka is Evan Von Christoph.

[Zylka]

It was just a joke Jason, relax.

[Zylka]

This "Evan Von Christoph"... he must be a classy fellow, no?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

To know him is to love him.

If, that is, "love" can be defined as "to point at something and laugh at it".

[Zylka]

Back in line, box-car bugs.

[Libertarian]

God, what a waste of bandwidth. And what a pompous ass.

[Ming]

Enough spamming... back to the thread, or don't bother to post