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    The whole sad truth is there. It's just about every horrid thing I could NOT want in Civ3.

    And Korn: Sorry, bro. Not only is MAD *missing* from this game, nuclear attacks are just another form of attack.

    *sigh*

    So much lost time on the List and this forum. Hell.
    I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

    "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

  • #2
    Oh, and your reward for reaching the Modern Era is? Boredom.

    *clap clap*

    Brilliant!
    I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

    "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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    • #3
      i don't trust good reviews. i don't trust bad reviews. i play the game and see for myself.

      i'm firmly convinced that 99% of computer game reviewers are completely idiots that couldn't find their ass with both hands.
      -connorkimbro
      "We're losing the war on AIDS. And drugs. And poverty. And terror. But we sure took it to those Nazis. Man, those were the days."

      -theonion.com

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      • #4
        Some of the things mentioned in reviews are indeed very disappointing. Sluggish screen, nuclear weapons not destroying all units, and so on. Still, there seems to be enough positive points to make the game worthwhile. I'm hoping . . . .
        Anyway, I'll just have to try it out for myself and see if it's any good.
        Formerly known as Masuro.
        The sun never sets on a PBEM game.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by connorkimbro
          i'm firmly convinced that 99% of computer game reviewers are completely idiots that couldn't find their ass with both hands.
          Maybe they just have really small arses
          "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
          You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

          "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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          • #6
            The sluggish screen scrolling annoys me. I don't think I'll install civ3 until I get my new computer

            So, Yin, you're definately not going to purchase Civ3? Even though deep down in your heart you want to, right?
            If the voices in my head paid rent, I'd be a very rich man

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            • #7
              Funny thing is... Yin doesn't trust good reviews, but bad reviews are fact .

              Some other quotes:

              While I have dedicated several paragraphs to detailing what I found wrong with Civilization III, there is a lot here to like. When taken as a whole, the game is still very fun to play and quite addicting -- just not as much as some long time fans may have hoped.


              This section is actually a bit difficult to rate, as it took me quite some time to play a successful game on the third level of difficulty -- Reagent. That said, Civilization III comes with six levels of difficulty and there is a noticeable difference between them as you progress along the scale. For example, on Warlord (level two) the computer players are not very aggressive towards you and tend to place cities in poor locations -- even doing so within pockets of your empire not covered by your Culture. However, when you step up to Reagent, the computer players become a lot more savvy: Their city placement becomes much better, they become more aggressive, and because of the bonuses they receive to production, it becomes much harder to keep up. Needless to say, Civilization III doesn't break the tradition of challenging gameplay for players of all skill levels. If there was one annoy point about the AI, it would be that the computer players often make ridiculous demands during diplomacy, while generally offering nothing in return.


              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #8
                Yin,

                You are obviously on these forums because you enjoy Civilization, so I must ask why you continue to troll in every single thread. Once is enough. We've all heard your opinion and bashings of Civ3 and I'm sure most don't care to continue reading it.

                The two reviews are quite favorable and it's a given there will be faults and bugs. I'm very trusting in Firaxis that after our input will address this in a patch. Most of the negative points in the IGN and Avault review are minor and easily fixed. Just give it a rest please.

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                • #9
                  Well, the burdens of proof are quite different.

                  "The gameplay is good." Well, how? In other words, it will take time for that kind of good detail to come ... and I will give it every chance.

                  "An archer shot down a cruise missile, the map won't scroll well and the AI doesn't care if you lob ICBMs all over the place." Gee. Pretty clear on that, eh?

                  Anyway, the missile and AI issues are *personal* hot-buttons for me. Maybe a number of people here don't really mind.
                  I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

                  "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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                  • #10
                    Siej:

                    As long as the horrid news comes in, I will write about it on these forums.
                    I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

                    "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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                    • #11
                      But, as you can't take a good review as totally true, can you take a bad review as the same?

                      Wait for players to talk about the AI. Won't be long .
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #12
                        Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but you said you don't trust reviews? So before actually playing the game you are claiming the game is bad from reading two reviews you don't even trust?

                        Anyway, my advice to you is to pick the game up from your local EB. They have a 10 day return policy and if you don't like the game you can get your money back (store credit.) I just feel you should play the game first before going against your standards and believing reviews.

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                        • #13
                          can you take a bad review as the same?
                          I understand your point, but consider (again): "Great gameplay!" Well, I'll need many good examples. Then: "My archer shot down a missile and the AI doesn't really respond when I nuke people." Well, what more do I need? Is the guy lying? These are MAJOR FAULTS IN THE SYSTEM!!! Can they be patched?

                          ...Lord, now we go back to Square One.


                          Siej: It seems I have a *very* hard time trusting positive reviews. Can you blame me? While *specific* negatives really stand out ... and should. Of course, I hate those general negative reviews like "The gameplay is missing that certain something." Well, unless the guy can tell me what that is, I consider his review a waste of Net space. But look at the examples above of what I mean on the negative side. Broken game mechanics.

                          As for your recommendation to just play the game: I refuse to buy it at anything approaching retail price. If the Korean market gets me the LE at $35, I'll buy it. Otherwise, I'll just play the 'release and patch' game. Again.
                          I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

                          "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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                          • #14
                            Given the release/shipment fiasco, fukem. I'm going to get a "temporary" version and only replace it when the MP/Fixed version comes out. That is, unless the "temporary" version proves itself worthy.

                            AAAAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!

                            Yin, if you are right, I'm going to call the dog shelter and get them to pick you up. Don't shoot the messenger, my arse.
                            To be one with the Universe is to be very lonely - John Doe - Datalinks

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                            • #15
                              Yin, what I am saying is can't you take the AI/nuke thing as something that might be a result of difficulty level?

                              The archer thing does sound like a bug, though might need confirmation.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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