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  • #16
    Re: Re: Re: Will the advisors be of any use?

    Originally posted by FireDragon
    Hey, I am 13 and I was playing civ (1) at the age of 6. And I could beat emperor level too, so dont be dissing civ playing 12 year olds.
    You're 13 and already decided to be evil? Hmmm...

    I am not doing a research for my phd, so would you tell me, what does a six year old think of Civ? Is the comprehention different from now? Has Civ made you evil, especially Civ1 where was was often the only option?
    To be one with the Universe is to be very lonely - John Doe - Datalinks

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    • #17
      Carolus, please, no with the MP thing!

      Civ3 is SP. Fact.

      Would be cool if some net-based MP miracle were available from day 1. But it isnt! Sometime in the future maybe!

      As far as advisors go, I agree that they are useful for beginners and to cut down micromanagement! But not much else!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jason Beaudoin
        I think they will be invaluable because there is so much information to be had in CIV 3, that by having an advisor point something out to you is very useful. For example, if your military advisor tells you that there is lots of room to expand your military, I see that as a great tool. If you're foreign advisor is telling you that an enemy is technically advanced, you'd want to try to increase your science, or steal their technology.
        I won't necessarily always use the advisors for.. uh.. advice; but a lot of what the advisors do is just let you know general information about your empire, so they may be worth keeping around just to keep you updated on things.

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        • #19
          I remeber 10 years ago when I first started to play civ1.
          I was a poor Civ1 player, but after some time I started to look on advices from city build screen. After some time listening advices, I managed to beat up AI on a Prince level. Later I found that not all copmuter advices are enough good to beat a copmuter on higher levels.
          And at the end I made some my one strategies & beat up AI on emperor level. Several yeras later I discovered a ISC strategy (on my own) and game became easy on every level.

          Anyway, Civ2 concuil was just for fun, it never gived any usefull advice, still
          building sceen advices were relativly good and I bet that they, together with some new advisiors would give a novice players a lot of help.

          So I say that ADVISIROS will be usefull for learning the game & even a civ veterans need to learn this game because it is just to much different copmared to previous CIVs.

          I also hope that in next expansion pack AI will be improved (by help of players inputs), and that advisiors & governors would do better then
          in CIV3 v1.0

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          • #20
            They should be of entertainment value only.
            For example if you had a city that was population capped and needed an aqueduct to expand your advisor would/should suggest "Sire the people are thirsty, we should build an aqueduct." When you subsequently select "Catapult" in the drop down list the advisor should change to. "You never listen to me, I am here for you day in day out for thousands of years and all you do is ignore me. You not even listening now are you."
            There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.

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            • #21
              Pessimists, pessimists...

              It looks like advisors will be saying something useful, at least time to time, and, most important, it adds some great atmosphere. I want Civ 3!
              Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
              Contact: solver-at-weplayciv-dot-com
              I can kill you whenever I please... but not today. - The Cigarette Smoking Man

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              • #22
                Originally posted by MisterMuppet
                "You never listen to me, I am here for you day in day out for thousands of years and all you do is ignore me. You not even listening now are you."
                I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                • #23
                  I suppose those quick functions might be handy,
                  but the rest we will probably turn off after few games.
                  "Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - Solver

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                  • #24
                    In Civ 2 the advisors only confirmed what i already knew. No matter I love that feature and no doubt it is much improved in Civ 3.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Civ Dave

                      I want my advisor to just say "Hey Dave, your doing a great job
                      We might invent how to do that, if Firaxis hasn't
                      tried to make that impossible.

                      Hopefully good old Notepad will still be usefull.
                      "Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - Solver

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                      • #26
                        I think that the advisors will be very useful in the beginning (as a tutorial), for a few games. After that they can be used as a reminder of how certain things work (if something is forgotten).

                        And for Anuninkoba - very nice signature
                        I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by The Negotiator
                          In Civ 2 the advisors only confirmed what i already knew.
                          Same for me. Especially the Elvis that was
                          supposed to be an "attitude advisor", took
                          on my nervs.
                          "Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - Solver

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Rasbelin
                            Hopefully good old Notepad will still be usefull.
                            Apparently all the values are coded by the editor, so notepad wont help much with editing. On the plus side though, the lack of text files helps the game load faster (information from Dan Magaha) Not sure of which thread.

                            Ras: Elvis bugged me too
                            I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                            • #29
                              yeah, I remember the Military Advisor in Civ I who used to tell me "WE SHOULD BUILD A NUCLEAR".

                              Trying to get me wiped out, was he?

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                              • #30
                                I hope the trade advisor will be very helpful not to insult your opponent or in provokig your enemy

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