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    A Thread To End Threads...

    For all of you optimists, realists, or whatever you want to be called you need to respect all posters, even pessimists. If a pessimist wants to bash Firaxis or Civ3 that is his/her choice. All people's opinions need to be taken into consideration. Yes, I am saying that a pessimist's feelings are just as valuable as an optimist's/realist's feelings. Also, you need to stop bashing Yin for his opinions. I think I might be one of the only people who actually understand Yin. Overall, just stop all this optimist unite crap, pessimists WILL like Civ3, and whatever else you complain about towards the pessimists.

    All of this does apply to the pessimists too, but it seems as if they are much more level-headed people sometimes.
    However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.
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    Well I do agree that everyone (pessimists, optimists, and all those in between) are being a little crazy right now, there is something else to take into consideration. Some people are belligerent and try to force their opinions on others. They also do not back them up with fact and when confronted by facts make insults. That, I have a problem with.
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    • #3
      Re: A Thread To End Threads...

      Originally posted by TechWins
      For all of you optimists, realists, or whatever you want to be called you need to respect all posters, even pessimists.
      Respect is meted where it is due.

      If a pessimist wants to bash Firaxis or Civ3 that is his/her choice. All people's opinions need to be taken into consideration.
      This is true. But responses to bashings are also people's choice.

      Yes, I am saying that a pessimist's feelings are just as valuable as an optimist's/realist's feelings. Also, you need to stop bashing Yin for his opinions.
      I never had a problem with Yin, until his snide little footnotes in his posts that were directed towards people's characters started showing up.

      I think I might be one of the only people who actually understand Yin.
      You are starting to sound like Yin.

      Overall, just stop all this optimist unite crap, pessimists WILL like Civ3, and whatever else you complain about towards the pessimists.
      Stop the pessimism, and we will stop the optimism.

      All of this does apply to the pessimists too, but it seems as if they are much more level-headed people sometimes.
      Only seems.

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      • #4
        Well, I have just posted my final comment about the SID IS GOD thread. Enough of it.

        As for the rest, time will tell. I expect a few weeks of euphoria as the 'shiny box' drug clouds people's objectivity. Once the dust settles, we'll see exactly how things turned out.

        Until then, the flood of new people here will rise...and they know nothing about the past 2 years of the efforts made on this forum. Fair enough. I and others know enough...
        I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

        "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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        • #5
          Yin 26's posts are always too long, so i never read them (except the argument between him and Mark G), but by the sounds of things, he is probably the biggest pessimist of them all. That is probably good because when the game is released and it is better, the pessimists would then be optimistic about the game. Or if it is worse than the pessimists say, the optimists will be pessimists. Or if the game ends up being OK, the optimists will be a little bit pessimistic while the pessimists will be a little bit optimistic, so in the end, everyone probably will enjoy the game as much as the next person. The realists could go ahead and make scenarios so they get happy too, and everyone will agree on how good the game is.

          I have no idea what I just said.

          And for crying out loud! It's just a game in the end! No more, no less! Let people have their own opinions!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by yin26
            Well, I have just posted my final comment about the SID IS GOD thread. Enough of it.

            As for the rest, time will tell. I expect a few weeks of euphoria as the 'shiny box' drug clouds people's objectivity. Once the dust settles, we'll see exactly how things turned out.

            Until then, the flood of new people here will rise...and they know nothing about the past 2 years of the efforts made on this forum. Fair enough. I and others know enough...
            Does this mean you're gone for good? Never to visit the Apolyton forums again, never to play the greatest game of all time again? After ten years... one (bad) mistake and you lose complete faith...
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            • #7
              Wow, Yin posted whilst I was reading. By the sounds of his comment, he's not letting other peoples opinions draw him on to make one, so whyd's everyone bagging him?

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              • #8
                Respect is meted where it is due.
                If a person states their opinion, regardless of what that may be, in an appropiate fashion then respect should be given to them.

                This is true. But responses to bashings are also people's choice.
                Yes, but the the responses given to these bashing posts are very unrespectful. Hypothetical example: "I'm not going to buy the game if MP isn't included" Response to that post "MP sucks anyways so you have no reason not to buy Civ3; you will love Civ3 when you play it".

                I never had a problem with Yin, until his snide little footnotes in his posts that were directed towards people's characters started showing up.
                I'm not sure what you footnotes you are referring to? That's good you don't have a problem because there isn't much of a reason to.

                You are starting to sound like Yin.
                When does Yin say "I'm the only one who understands myself"? I'm not trying to suck up to Yin, either, because I have no reason to nor do I want to. I'm just stating the way things really are.

                Stop the pessimism, and we will stop the optimism.
                Maybe I should have put quotes around "optimist unit" and "pessimists WILL like Civ3" to get my point through better. Unless I misinterpreting your post, which I think I just may have done. Now that I see what you meant: nobody has to stop the pessimism or optimism, respect needs to be given to everybody on what their feelings are on a topic.

                By the way, to give some of you a surprising statement after my comments made on this thread, I'm an optimist.
                However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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                • #9
                  All of this does apply to the pessimists too, but it seems as if they are much more level-headed people sometimes.


                  ROTFLOL!

                  Like said above, stop the ridiculous pessimism and Chicken Little routine, and we won't need to overcompensate.
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #10
                    I have ranted against the pessmists. It was in reaction to my reduced enjoyment I got from reading all that negativity. It was becoming like "I'm not enjoying Apolyton nearly as much with all the non-news and ranting going on" at the time.

                    The negativity seems to have abated considerably. Or have I just learned to avoid those threads?

                    My belief is that with a little extra effort, everyone can say most anything in a positive manner, without 'angering'.

                    Hey, just wait until we are playing the game! All sorts of people are going to be disappointed because they get impatient trying to get a handle on the game, trying for a 'conquering the world' victory before their civ is ready.

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                    • #11
                      I agree that everyone has the right to express their opinion. However, there are those who seem on a mission to trash the game at every opportunity. It's really getting tiring. Its like a broken record.
                      I keep wondering is there anything they like about Civ3? Anything?
                      Hey I like a good honest rant as much as the next person BUT over and over again by the same people........????
                      You can't even avoid it by not clicking on an innocent looking post because these people are posting this trash everywhere.
                      "To live again, to be.........again" Captain Kirk in some Star Trek Episode. (The one with the bad guy named Henok)
                      "One day you may have to think for yourself and heaven help us all when that time comes" Some condescending jerk.

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                      • #12
                        "Why can't we all just get along?" - Mars Attacks

                        I am sure all will be well when Civ3 is here. And think about Civ3's feelings, eh? Dissing it for not being the perfect game, how do you think it feels? Let us accept it as it is and see it for what it has and not for what it lacks. We can all be angry for its lack of capability of printing 432 dollar bills or produce instant sexual gratification! Well, maybe for some people they can get instant sexual gratification from CIV3, but let us not go there

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                        • #13
                          You can enjoy your freedom of speech.. .and you are entitled to your personal opinion... as long as you can show proof that whatever it is you are saying is coming through your brain instead of your digestive tract....

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                          • #14
                            Just one thought:

                            When Civ3 is released, it will be no optimists, and no pessimists. We'll all be realists, because we will all KNOW the truth!!!

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                            • #15
                              Yin's not pessimistic, he's just cautiously optimistic.
                              Humans are like cockroaches, no matter how hard you try, you can't exterminate them all!

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