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  • #31
    That and a number of the best ideas in the friggen game came directly from here! It reminds me of Jeff Briggs comment in an interview: "Yeah, there is this site that gave some ideas..."

    Just 'this site' for God's sake. Absolutely and in all ways what a pathetic display. And even Soren is talked about at the guy who came up with 'high level' ideas like culture.

    Well, culture came FROM HERE.

    In the face of all that, to screw with us in the Firaxis fashion is finally convincing me they are a second-rate company at best.
    I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

    "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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    • #32
      HEIL YIN.
      "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
      - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Jingo
        but honestly, confirmation on a few key issues would shut us all up. multiplayer.

        multiplayer.
        Amen
        The eagle soars and flies in peace and casts its shadow wide Across the land, across the seas, across the far-flung skies. The foolish think the eagle weak, and easy to bring to heel. The eagle's wings are silken, but its claws are made of steel. So be warned, you would-be hunters, attack it and you die, For the eagle stands for freedom, and that will always fly.

        Darkness makes the sunlight so bright that our eyes blur with tears. Challenges remind us that we are capable of great things. Misery sharpens the edges of our joy. Life is hard. It is supposed to be.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Jingo
          but honestly, confirmation on a few key issues would shut us all up.
          LOL, I will believe it when I see it.

          Second rate company? whatever you say Yin.

          Name one that is undeniably better.
          I don't do drugs anymore 'cause i find i can get the same effect by standing up really fast.

          I live in my own little world, but its ok; they know me here.

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          • #35
            Ensemble Studios could take Firaxis out to a back lot and beats its a$$ from here until the next millenium. In part precisely because they put a premium on the gamers' ability to help them craft an outstanding product.
            I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

            "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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            • #36
              Ok, I had no clue who they were and visited their site. AOE series, hmmm not bad.

              "What other games do they make?"

              *searching website........still searching...... still searching......*

              Thats it? Just the AOE series? They have been around for so long and just one series of sequel-expansion-sequel-expansion. It ain't bad, but it sure ain't all that great either.
              I don't do drugs anymore 'cause i find i can get the same effect by standing up really fast.

              I live in my own little world, but its ok; they know me here.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by yin26
                Ensemble Studios could take Firaxis out to a back lot and beats its a$$ from here until the next millenium. In part precisely because they put a premium on the gamers' ability to help them craft an outstanding product.
                Bruce Shelley is the big man at ES. He was Sid's partner in Civ1.

                They did take forever to put out a much needed patch, though. But this blame goes to Microsoft.

                I believe a lot of what's going on can be blamed on Infogrames, and not Firaxis. But I'm not "up" on the politics going on over there so I don't think anyone can know for sure.

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                • #38
                  Yeah, I have noticed microsoft games take a while to get the first patch.
                  I don't do drugs anymore 'cause i find i can get the same effect by standing up really fast.

                  I live in my own little world, but its ok; they know me here.

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                  • #39
                    Yes, Microsoft held back the patch...which caused numerous problems. And don't worry: ES has a 'new game' in the works. No need to blame them for making one of the absolutely best made RTS's EVER and then improving on it.

                    You'll see something different from them soon, though.
                    I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

                    "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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                    • #40

                      Don't lecture me. Every comment I have made is constructive...at least as much as what you posted. By the way: Nicely put until your pointless remark at the end.
                      Did I strike a nerve Yin? You poor thing. Really didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

                      Frankly, telling people not to buy the game isn't constructive at all, and if it is contributing to the development of a better Civilization game, please enlighten us all by telling us how.
                      Of the Holy Roman Empire, this was once said:
                      "It is neither holy or roman, nor is it an empire."

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                      • #41
                        Strike a nerve? I'm just saying that your silly last line actually ruined an otherwise good post. In other words: You wanted to be constructive yourself and then blew it at the end.
                        I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

                        "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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                        • #42
                          I have to tell you Yin, you make a lot of good points, and you treament by Firaxis is typical. I received the same type of treament from them when I was the Web Master. In terms of communication problems and lack of political tact, they have those problems in abundance.

                          They are a young company, and I believe they still have yet to flush out how to deal with the public and fans more effectively and ethically.
                          Of the Holy Roman Empire, this was once said:
                          "It is neither holy or roman, nor is it an empire."

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                          • #43
                            Strike a nerve? I'm just saying that your silly last line actually ruined an otherwise good post. In other words: You wanted to be constructive yourself and then blew it at the end.
                            You're right... I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said that.
                            Of the Holy Roman Empire, this was once said:
                            "It is neither holy or roman, nor is it an empire."

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                            • #44
                              Wow! Peace has been struck. I really did like the post, though, and totally understand why you are leery volunteering your time for Firaxis. Obviously I should finally learn that lesson myself. It's unfortunate because they really do have a lot of talent over there...
                              I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

                              "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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                              • #45
                                Firaxis, I'm in favor of solid gameplay and quality over extraneous feature quantity. No MP is not a problem. It might have been cool to try, but civilization's core does not revolve around MP.... it can be added later and I'm cool with it.

                                Keep up the good work! Not everyone here is a whiny 14 yr old kid! To use a bad cliche, Take everything with a grain of salt.

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