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  • I might be an optimist about MP but.....

    read this:

    GameSpin: Any multiplayer?

    Johnson: No. We're working on multiplayer but we're not ready to make any announcements about how it will be implemented.
    To me Johnson just gives the standard answer to MP questions.
    "We're working but..............."

    It's known that much companies alter quotes OR questions after the interview took place. To us, MP is important and we know much about civ3. Remember that people from Gamespin have less knowledge about civ3 than we have. And they feel MP is less important and all that.

    If I read the answer, than I can't say anything else but that Johnson answers to the question: Any (info on) multiplayer

    and than after the usual question the usual answer comes.

    The 'No' in that case refors to: I won't comment on it.

    I might be an optimist, but that's the way I see it.

    CyberShy
    Formerly known as "CyberShy"
    Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

  • #2
    great minds think alike.



    that generic SHlT of an answer isn't going to cover you a55 anymore firaxis, a lot of people are tired of hearing it.
    "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
    - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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    • #3
      Well, personally I think civ3 will not contain MP at release. But as soon as "the MP Project" is ready they will release a patch or expansion pack.

      But since they stated that the AI is better than ever, I personally don't mind too much. If Firaxians who play civ3 for years now cannot beat it at Deity, it will probably be good!

      So let's rock and roll! Prepare for war!
      Member of Official Apolyton Realistic Civers Club.
      If you can't solve it, it's not a problem--it's reality
      "All is well your excellency, and that pleases me mightily"

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      • #4
        Re: I might be an optimist about MP but.....

        Originally posted by CyberShy

        The 'No' in that case refors to: I won't comment on it.

        CyberShy
        Whats the colour of the sky in that fantasy world you live in? It seems pretty obvious.

        "Any multiplayer?" - Answer: NO

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        • #5
          Heh. I guess it's hard for some folks to take off those rose-colored glasses.

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          • #6
            "Any multiplayer?" - Answer: NO
            what if you read my post again and try to find out what I'm saying ? Or do you want me to repeat it ?
            You did everything but answering to my argument.
            Formerly known as "CyberShy"
            Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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            • #7
              Excuse me if Im wrong... but didnt firaxis state that theyre going to have Hotseat, normal MP and PBEM as well as 2 ABSOLUTELY NEW MP features some coupla months ago????

              As I see it right now, everyone is talking that Civ3 wont be better than civ2, and itll only be single player forever just like they always were!
              if thats true: FIRAXIS should build a veeeeeeeeeeery large army, bcos Im gonna move in from all 3 sides!!!!!!!!!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheRussianKing
                As I see it right now, everyone is talking that Civ3 wont be better than civ2, and itll only be single player forever just like they always were!
                if thats true: FIRAXIS should build a veeeeeeeeeeery large army, bcos Im gonna move in from all 3 sides!!!!!!!!!
                That's some funny stuff.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CyberShy
                  what if you read my post again and try to find out what I'm saying ? Or do you want me to repeat it ?
                  You did everything but answering to my argument.
                  It seems to me you are saying that Johnson is answering the question "Any info on multiplayer?" not "Any multiplayer?". It just seems like hopeful thinking on your part. Your argument about why this error occurred is lost on me. Please repeat your argument so that it makes sense.

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                  • #10
                    CyberShy, it's a nice thought, but realistically I cannot concur. I'd like to be an optimist, but all the pessimism on Apolyton constrains me.

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                    • #11
                      Your argument about why this error occurred is lost on me
                      1. the interviewer shortened the question. (from 'can you give us any info on multiplayers')

                      2. if the answer would be 'no' than an explanation would've followed. (pherhaps like: it will come later we don't know how yet) but all that was said was "we don't know how we implement it"

                      3. the 'no' and 'we don't know how to implement it' are in contradiction if the 'no' means we won't release it, and the 'implement' part means we will release it.

                      4. not any company would allow something like "We rushed the game and will publish a part later and ask money for it again" line to appear in such an interview

                      5. the question 'any multiplayer' is a really silly one.
                      Imagine in an interview suddenly out of nothing the question "Any multiplayer" was asked.

                      The question would've been "Are there any multiplayer options" or "How is multiplayer implemented in the game" or "Can you give us some information about multiplayer"

                      'any multiplayer' just doesn't make any sence.

                      6. the answer Soren gave is exactly the same answer that all Firaxis people have given for the past few weeks. (including the 'no' part after the interview asked "Can you tell us more about multiplayer)

                      7. Their website FAQ still says they're busy to implement MP. They would've removed it long ago if there wouldn't be any MP in the game.

                      8. Mike told us before that the programmers weren't allowed to explain anything that wasn't revealed officially yet by the company. Why could Soren do ? And *if* the permission was given now, than Dan could come and explain it as well to us. Niether Dan nor Mike did.

                      Conclusion: pherhaps there's no MP. The past weeks Firaxis has worked very hard on that, and for that reason they didn't dare to say a 'yes' or a 'no'.
                      Since civ is only gold for 1.5 days so far, I doubt the interview was made before it was gone gold. For that reason Soren couldn't give any info on it.

                      those are my reasons.

                      CyberShy
                      Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                      Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                      • #12
                        I hope CyberShy is right, we have to wait and see. Also the fact that he didn't say that it weren't included might mean that if they didn't have time to finish it they will give it away for free later.
                        Creator of the Civ3MultiTool

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CyberShy

                          Conclusion: pherhaps there's no MP. The past weeks Firaxis has worked very hard on that, and for that reason they didn't dare to say a 'yes' or a 'no'.
                          Since civ is only gold for 1.5 days so far, I doubt the interview was made before it was gone gold. For that reason Soren couldn't give any info on it.

                          those are my reasons.

                          CyberShy
                          I guess I am lost in what you are saying? But there is no MP with the initial release- that much is certain.

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                          • #14
                            I guess I am lost in what you are saying? But there is no MP with the initial release- that much is certain.
                            why is that certain ?
                            Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                            Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                            • #15
                              Well, I'll attempt some optimism. Firaxis decided not to ship mp with the game because they want to wait for player feedback.

                              After the first or second gameplay patch is released, f'sis will post a sufficiently tweaked mp patch for download.



                              If I read the answer, than I can't say anything else but that Johnson answers to the question: Any (info on) multiplayer

                              and than after the usual question the usual answer comes.

                              The 'No' in that case refors to: I won't comment on it.
                              Are you saying there's a possiblity the game will ship with PBEM/Hotseat?

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