Accessing Military Power

[Jason Beaudoin]

I always hated how military strength was calculated in CIV I and II, because those versions would only calculate the amount of units a civilization had, regardless of the quality or firepower. I never used the military advisor because he would always say that I had a week military, but in reality, I had better technology and better firepower.

Anyone else notice this? Was this true in SMAC?

[aaglo]

In SMAC (IIRC) the military power was calculated with these variables:
1. number of military units.
2. weapon level of each unit: depending on the most powerful weapon on planet (for example: the most powerful weapon is level 8; the level 4 weapon is only half of the power in the "military power formula").
3. armor level of each unit (similar as weapons).

I'll bet that there is similar "formula" in civ3....

[Jason Beaudoin]

Excellent! Thanks for the information.

[Mihai]

The way military power is calculate in SMAC is more realistic.
In Civ1 someone with 2 phalanx was counted as been more powerful that someone with 1 tank

[connorkimbro]

Of course Mihai, 2 phalanxes could beat a tank to smithereens!! Oh, no, wait, that was CtP. heh

[Mihai]

Originally posted by connorkimbro
Of course Mihai, 2 phalanxes could beat a tank to smithereens!! Oh, no, wait, that was CtP. heh

Maybe the phalanx cought the tank crews on lunch break.

[Tjoepie]

I hope to find a stat telling me my losses vs kills in civ3, that was allways funny, I really missed that in CTP2.

[Bkeela]

I never pay much heed to the military strength of my opposition. I always have the minimum protection, plus a few scouts, until I am ready the spew forth my technologically superior war machine.

I am utterly uninterested in war mongering, but it is an unfortunate must if survival is desired [not because I fear invasion, but because of the pollution factor of rivals]. I have to cull the world to protect my neat and tidy little kingdom. Such a tedious ordeal, but anyway.


Bkeela.

[Jason Beaudoin]

I usually do what you do Bkeela. I usually only go to war with another civilization if they are on my continent or if they are winning the game and I have to take a chunk out of them to slow them down. If I'm weaker, I use a lot of hit and run tactics, destroying improvements, roads, etc.

So, in that regard, military assessment is really important to me because I have to know what I'm up against, and it is certain good to know that there is more accurate calculations.

[Dknight]

I'm a pretty peaceful guy myself, but if they ever try to attack one of my cities, I'll start sending my howitzars until they're gone ^^

[Nikolai]

I always build the most up to date units for defence, but I never have enough of them... So, I just give away one of my cities(I have many of them! ) and continue my researching! I always try to win by reaching AC, I'm not good enough to conquer the world!

[The Andy-Man]

i dont care for calculations either, (as in real life) i only build a military when there is a war. pre war, i have 1 unit defending each city (about 10 cities). because they all have production of 60+, within 3 turns of being attacked i have a nice navy clearing the way for my transports, et voila.

[D4everman]

well, its been awhile since I played civ2 but in SMAC I always tried to have an overwhelming military presence. Not the most units but the best if possible. I would always try to make suer that if anyone attacked me I could respond with lethal force and I would never stop an attack until the enemy was destroyed or they surrendered. I hope civ 3 adds something to that. In SMAC i knew that Yang would almost never surrender. I want civs in Civ3 to be flexible to a point.

[squid]

Originally posted by Bkeela
I never pay much heed to the military strength of my opposition. I always have the minimum protection, plus a few scouts, until I am ready the spew forth my technologically superior war machine.

I am utterly uninterested in war mongering, but it is an unfortunate must if survival is desired [not because I fear invasion, but because of the pollution factor of rivals]. I have to cull the world to protect my neat and tidy little kingdom. Such a tedious ordeal, but anyway.

This sounds exactly like me. When I get into a war, I think "Oh great! Now I have to churn out units instead of building more city improvements!"

In SMAC, of course, I tried to stay peaceful until I got the Quantum Singularity Blink Clean Gravship! Can you say OUCH? I think you can.

[manofthehour]

ya they do need to have a better scroing system. Also it would be nice if your military adviser gave you some of there weak points. I was always surprised when I went to war and counsuted the military chart and saw that my oppent was twice as strong as me. Than after 3 turns of war my tanks had thrashed there warriors and I was now ahead. Be nice to know I held that kinda of advantage before hand.