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  • Beware of Civ3 But Not Exactly What You Think...

    My whole intent on this thread is to not bash Civ3, for I feel Civ3 will be a fantastic game for myself at least, yet to show the dangers Civ3 may cause.

    I am one who is fairly new (about a year in the making) to the Civ series, which in turn should mean that the game shall still be innovative and exciting to me. How much that excitement tears at my life is still unforseen but my I thought is that it will again be of great extent.

    $10 of mine has already been invested into Civ3 with my purchase of the Civ3 Pre-Order. Although, the other $40 I will need to dish out (which is fair) to buy the game may not occur. The reasoning for me being unsure on buying Civ3 or not, is for my fear of what will happen to my life. Here's a quote from the "Making of the Civ3 Video" quote on quote "We've ruined your life again" quote unquote. Now do I, you, or anybody else what that to happen? Now one might think I'm joking or being sarcastic but this is a legible concern I have. Some around raise concerns around here of "what will I do to keep my girlfriend/wife happy, while I'm playing Civ3". If that is a concern I had I would not buy the game. For that is a concern I might have in the coming days. Even if some of you have raised those concerns in a jokingly matter you should still think twice about buying the game. You know Civ3 is going to fully occupy your life as soon as you buy and you won't be able to do anything about it. Myself I don't want to lose what appears to be the girl of my dreams (being completely honest about the girl being completely amazing) for some game. Ok, so maybe only the relationship will be damaged for some time being but for others you could lose somebody special. I'm being serious, this is a likely situation. Hypothetically you are supposed to call your gf at 8pm to talk to her but instead you are way too focused on defeating the Russians or your gf calls you at 8pm but you couldn't hear the phone because again you were way too focused on defeating the Russians. Now this may be no big deal most of the time but if it was important at the time or becomes a continuing situation. Basically my point is that everybody needs to think twice before buying Civ3!

    My example of a gf/wife is only the tip of the iceberg in the part of your life that could be ruined or damaged. I may just be playing too much into this but it still seems some what probable. Maybe all the anticipation of playing Civ3 is gettnig to my head, I don't know. Either way everybody should think twice before buying Civ3; I will be taking into strong considerations the consequences of buying Civ3.
    However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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    I've got University to think about

    I am quite concerned.
    "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
    You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

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    • #3
      The trick in life is this: All good things in moderation. If you can't handle a gf and Civ3 at the same time, chances are quite good you're going to have big problems with something else someday. So: Buy Civ3 but control youself. Regulate your playing time. If you gf is your priority, keep it that way but also play the game for 30 mins a day before sleeping, etc.

      For me, in grad school, I had a great gf, full-time classes, two part-time jobs AND played lots and lots of computer games. I graduated Magna *** Laude. Mind you: I didn't have time to become an expert in any of the games I played, nor did I have time to make the best mods ever, etc., but I had a great time playing them...isn't that the point?

      HINT: Keep your game time as a REWARD for handling all your 'real-life' issues for the day FIRST. I never played games until my paper was written, etc., and this helped push me to get the paper done early. That kind of thing.
      I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

      "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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      • #4
        What a joke: Magna C(u)m Laude is censored! Christ...
        I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

        "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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        • #5
          I share the same worries as you orange.

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          • #6
            Yin has a point. If you cant control yourself with Civ 3, then you will find that you cant control yourself with many things. Speaking of which, im supposed to be working on my uni assignment at the moment...
            I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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            • #7
              The trick in life is this: All good things in moderation. If you can't handle a gf and Civ3 at the same time, chances are quite good you're going to have big problems with something else someday. So: Buy Civ3 but control youself. Regulate your playing time. If you gf is your priority, keep it that way but also play the game for 30 mins a day before sleeping, etc.
              Ok...I won't be able to have fun playing Civ3 for just 30 minutes a day. I will need to play at least a few hours a day to have fun playing it.

              During the weekdays I only get around 3-7 hours of sleep depending. I have 7 classes for school ( an A hour on top of my original 6), which gives me a ton of homework. I'm going to be getting a job here soon...give me even less time. I spend about 30 minutes a day writing e-mails to important people to me. My sister and my baby nephew are coming in from Louisiana to visit for a while, which means more time with them less time doing other stuff. Hopefully I will be having (don't mean that in an object sense) a gf here soon. I work out everyday after school on top of working out at school in weight training, very tiring. Still being able to hang out with friends. Now throwing Civ3 into the mix of this could be very difficult. As much as I would love to play Civ3 I think I might have other things going on in my life that are more important to me.

              My whole point is not to show my situation but to let people realize how Civ3 might effect their life. A question everybody needs to ask themselves, what am I willing to sacrifice so I can play Civ3?
              However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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              • #8
                I'm not willing to sacrifice anything other than T.V. time and a little sleep. I'm married now and have a little daughter, and she is my priority when I go home after work. There ARE times in life when things are just too busy and it becomes almost impossible to enjoy computer games.

                My advice: Wait, like I am, for the Gold Edition several months from now. All the good stuff will be in it at a low price, and hopefully you'll have more free time then.
                I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

                "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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                • #9
                  Well, congratulations on your marriage and your daughter or good luck or whatever nice thing I'm supposed to say.

                  See you just aren't willing to make the sacrifice (like you were going to anyways) to play Civ3. People need to be warned in the sacrifices they will need to make.

                  Thanks for the advice for how ever much it may be worth.
                  However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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                  • #10
                    Well, as we know: My advice is even worse than worthless...following it will probably cost you. And thanks for the thanks or whatever post-thanks I should give.
                    I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

                    "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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                    • #11
                      Well if I play Civ3 24/7 instead of Diablo2 what's the difference. It will be all the same to my gf anyway.

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                      • #12
                        Tech: and I'm seriously supposed to take your warning to heart? I have posted about 300 messages here at Apolyton over the last two weeks; I think I am beyond the point of 'CIV' return.

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                        • #13
                          I dropped out of university after not even 3 weeks so I'll have plenty of time to play Civ3 without sacrificing anything
                          In een hoerekotje aan den overkant emmekik mijn bloem verloren,
                          In een hoerekotje aan den overkant bennekik mijn bloemeke kwijt

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by yin26
                            The trick in life is this: All good things in moderation. If you can't handle a gf and Civ3 at the same time, chances are quite good you're going to have big problems with something else someday. So: Buy Civ3 but control youself. Regulate your playing time. If you gf is your priority, keep it that way but also play the game for 30 mins a day before sleeping, etc.

                            For me, in grad school, I had a great gf, full-time classes, two part-time jobs AND played lots and lots of computer games. I graduated Magna *** Laude. Mind you: I didn't have time to become an expert in any of the games I played, nor did I have time to make the best mods ever, etc., but I had a great time playing them...isn't that the point?

                            HINT: Keep your game time as a REWARD for handling all your 'real-life' issues for the day FIRST. I never played games until my paper was written, etc., and this helped push me to get the paper done early. That kind of thing.
                            Though your message is reasonable, it presupposes that there is a clear distinction between being able to muster the discipline to 'handle' a game like Civ and the rest of ones life, and not being able to. This is in fact a fallacy.
                            It cannot be denied that it is virtually impossible to deal with any thing in ones life in such a way that it can be detached from the rest, or at least not causing interference.
                            Let me use your 30mins before bedtime example: it is perfectly acceptable to you or your significant others maybe, but it might not be for others ("why do you insist on playing that stupid game every night!"). Even if it were, there will be an impact on yourself: despite being absorbed in the game, you force yourself to go to sleep. Speaking out of my own experience with near-bedtime gaming: you may sleep badly, dreaming about Civ and beating the Russians etc.

                            In other words...there will always be *some* impact. Maybe not as disastrous as Techwins feared, but that which remains should not be downplayed.

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                            • #15
                              I play civ 2 religously, once a week. Civ 3 won't be any different. One night a week will be reserved for civ.
                              I see the world through bloodshot eyes
                              Streets filled with blood from distant lies.

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