Will be possible to offer other civ to BREAK a pact in exchange of other stuff???

[Asesino_Virtual]

For example. Your empire is in war time. Its in war against the Romans. So, u realise that for the Romans being capable to attack ur empire, they have to pass through the British territory, witch they have a free pass pact with the Romans. Now, the British are needed of Horses. So, u go and talk to them and offer:

We Offer: 1 horse
You Must: Cancel free pass pact with the Romans.

That will be possible???.

[Inverse Icarus]

oh. good question.

sorry i don't have the answer.

and the bigger question, will they actually break the free pass act, and not sign it again for a while? (not like when you gave an AI to attack an enemy and they made peace in 5 turns)

[lockstep]

IIRC, you can demand a military pact against the Romans. And a pact of this kind should require that the British cancel the free pasage agreement with the Romans.

[dainbramaged13]

Originally posted by lockstep
IIRC, you can demand a military pact against the Romans. And a pact of this kind should require that the British cancel the free pasage agreement with the Romans.

ya but breaking pacts would probably cost less on your end than declaring war

[Asesino_Virtual]

I dont want the British in a middle of a war that they will loose and will make the Romans more powerful. I just want to use them as a paceful wall against the Romans.

[lockstep]

Originally posted by dainbramaged13
ya but breaking pacts would probably cost less on your end than declaring war

And that was exactly the reason why I suggested this. Offer the British one horse, get them into a military alliance against the Romans (that is, if the British really need the horse that bad), and wait for the Romans to declare war. Now, it´s two against one.

Originally posted by UberKrux
and the bigger question, will they actually break the free pass act, and not sign it again for a while? (not like when you gave an AI to attack an enemy and they made peace in 5 turns)

I guess they could only cancel their new alliance with you peacefully after twenty turns.

Originally posted by Asesino_Virtual
I dont want the British in a middle of a war that they will loose and will make the Romans more powerful. I just want to use them as a paceful wall against the Romans.

Well, if I were the Romans, hated your empire, could attack you only via British territory, and knew the British could hardly defend themselves, I´d declare war on the British anyway.

[monkspider]

Extremely good question, maybe Dan will give us an answer.

[Trifna]

About on the same subject line, I'm also woundering if we will be able to ask something for EVERY diplomatic proposition that can be made. I remember SMAC where in some cases it could have been useful. Sure changes diplomacy.

[Asesino_Virtual]

Dont let this thread die! Its an important one and deserves a better discussion!

[Roman]

Well, I would hope that's possible to do.

[dearmad]

This would be good, but only if carefully balanced- too easy to take advantage of the AI and abuse this...

[Sava]

Originally posted by monkspider
Extremely good question, maybe Dan will give us an answer.

LOL and maybe Sid Meier will do Civ4 Ha!

It is a good question that should be answered.

Dan's probably too busy playing Civ3 to answer the likes of us.

[manofthehour]

Ya the defintitly should be a break treaty button. Well hopeuflly that will be included.

[Skanky Burns]

My belief is that this feature will be in. In SMAC, Firaxis gave us all sorts of diplomatic options to choose from - Declare war on [civ], Make peace with [civ]... This would only be an extra version of these options already included. So, i think it will be in

[Mihai]

Or if Britain have horses and sell them to Romans, can you give something to Britain so that they stop that trade? Maybe start selling those horses to you .

Did somebody know if in Civ3 will exist that thing that I liked in SMAC - lend agreement? If so, I would like if it could be mixed with some other options, like 'I will sell those horses only in exchange of X gold AND a loan of Y gold'