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  • #31
    I would think you can rebuild your forbidden palace. Maybe you'll have to sell it first though or something...

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Stuie
      But hey Uber! If you don't want to use a feature, don't.
      and i'll make sure NO ONE ELSE BUILDS THEM. HAHAHAHAHHAHA
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      • #33
        I like the idea of a second palace. As a matter of fact, id have a palace in every city if i could!

        What?? At least there'd be no corruption And i could travel my country in style
        I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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        • #34
          Originally posted by UberKruX


          and i'll make sure NO ONE ELSE BUILDS THEM. HAHAHAHAHHAHA
          I don't doubt it!
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          • #35
            Does it have any adverse effects to move the palace to another city?
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            • #36
              It costs money or shields and you lose the palace function in the old city?
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Snapcase
                It costs money or shields and you lose the palace function in the old city?
                Doh. I was somewhat confused.

                What I was trying to say is, if a palace isn't all that expensive to move, then the Fobidden Palace can't cost all that much...

                I was hoping for a Great Wonder too, something like 1/3 distance for purposes of calculating corruption.
                (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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                • #38
                  What I don't like about the Forbidden Palace is: first, the name "Forbidden City" has always been used exclusively to address the great palaces in Beijing, which makes Forbidden Palace confusing and also makes me wonder why it's not a unique wonder. Second, having six cities is enough to build the F P is just a bit too little. The weakest civ could easily have more than 6 cities and I find it an annoying idea for weak nations to be able to build the Forbidden Palace as the Forbidden City was the greatest group of palaces ever built in the world.

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                  • #39
                    Yup. It should be called 'the Winter Palace' or 'the Summer Palace'. There have been plenty of them.

                    Or even just 'the Second Palace'.

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                    • #40
                      Well...

                      If you want to make a case for "Forbidden Palace" as a minor wonder sounding too much like the Chinese "Forbidden City" then how about the Apollo Program or Pentagon? All of these (from what I understand) will be minor wonders based on the accomplishments or buildings from different cultures yet will be available to all.

                      Give it a rest, it's not that big a deal.

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                      • #41
                        well I want mine to be a Hexagon. Is that too much to ask ?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Sun Zi 36
                          What I don't like about the Forbidden Palace is: first, the name "Forbidden City" has always been used exclusively to address the great palaces in Beijing, which makes Forbidden Palace confusing and also makes me wonder why it's not a unique wonder. Second, having six cities is enough to build the F P is just a bit too little. The weakest civ could easily have more than 6 cities and I find it an annoying idea for weak nations to be able to build the Forbidden Palace as the Forbidden City was the greatest group of palaces ever built in the world.
                          While having six cities is a required condition, doesn't mean it is also the right moment to build it.

                          You probably need the help of the second palace just when your empire is quite large and distribute over more than one continent (for the sake of discussion I assume Civ III having similar inefficience/corruption rules as SMAC about number of cities and distance from the capital).

                          About the name, I like it. It sounds exotic and great (and used for cities not only in China, but in Africa, Middle East and South American empire IIRC.

                          Of course you can probably rename it Camp David if you like it
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                            Doh. I was somewhat confused.

                            What I was trying to say is, if a palace isn't all that expensive to move, then the Fobidden Palace can't cost all that much...
                            AFAIK the problem now is about the loss of culture if you relocate your usual palace. You know, any building that add culture point supply them as long as it exist, with some multiplier during the years passed since its founding.

                            Yes, Forbidden Palace sounds good to me as a minor Wonder
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                            • #44
                              Sounds very cool to have two centres of administration from which you can decrease construction A successful thread by moi
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ozymandous
                                If you want to make a case for "Forbidden Palace" as a minor wonder sounding too much like the Chinese "Forbidden City" then how about the Apollo Program or Pentagon? All of these (from what I understand) will be minor wonders based on the accomplishments or buildings from different cultures yet will be available to all.
                                Well, any civ can build a pentagon shaped building, there's no problem about that. My main concern is just that it seems too easy to build the "Forbidden Palace" (which immediately gives rise to the idea of the "Forbidden City" in your head). I would disagree on the Apollo program too if it is very easily achieved.

                                Originally posted by Adm.Naismith
                                While having six cities is a required condition, doesn't mean it is also the right moment to build it.

                                You probably need the help of the second palace just when your empire is quite large and distribute over more than one continent (for the sake of discussion I assume Civ III having similar inefficience/corruption rules as SMAC about number of cities and distance from the capital).
                                Yea i know it's just a required condition doesn't mean it would be the right time to build it. But to me, 6 cities should NOT BE ENOUGH TO EVEN BE ABLE TO BUILD the forbidden palace/city watever it is.

                                (BTW, it seems a good idea to make the Forbidden City a unique wonder and art of war a minor. That way the Chinse don't have to be militaristic anymore.)

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