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"This project is 99% ready and a simple delay on the release would prove disastrous to this year's sheet balance and thus reflect even more in the stock value."
PGM: so true. Considering this is the case, there are few other places to look for bad news of such magnitude. Civ3 may represent some 20% of Infogrames' revenue for the next couple of quarters, and upwards of a quarter of their publishing revenue. (I'm talking here about the US subsidiary, which is publishing Civ3 and which has the ticker posted above).Last edited by DanS; September 21, 2001, 19:08.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Hm, what about SidGolf?(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."Comment
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DanS,Originally posted by DanS
The markets were down 14% the last week, but Infogrames was down about 50% overall. 66% decline in September alone. That's smoke! So what's the fire?
GT interactive isn't doing as well as they thought--is this going to tank the whole company? Sure hope Firaxis has a good contract...
1. I expect the sftware stocsk to get hit harder than the market as a whole.
2. It could just be one of those days today for Infogrames.
3. If there is a specific cause for the drop...do you know if they are covered by any analysts? Market cap is quite small...Comment
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And we did see a speedup wrt to Civ3 and some more financial oriented (vice "art" decisions) wrt MP.Originally posted by isaac brock
oh, you're right... we can kiss civ3 goodbye. Because it makes sense for them not to release a game that they expect to sell tons of copies of.
I think if they're losing money they'd want to release civ 3 faster, not slower. Don't make everyone so upset over your childish and irrational opinions.Comment
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I thought SidGolf was being published by EA.
GP: re the vice art, thinking about the revenue model of the Ultima Online series makes me want to lock up my wallet and lose the key wrt Civ3 mp...
As to the market cap, the Wilshire 5000 didn't experience any particular crunch. But true--any number of things could have happened. Just look at Disney yesterday...Last edited by DanS; September 21, 2001, 20:41.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Just think if Markos got paid a couple bucks an hour per person on-line here. At 100 persons/hour (average) that works out to $200/hr. Assume 80% collection cause of down-time, non-paying helpers, and slop. That's 160/hr. Times 8760 hours. That's 1.4 million/year!! Even at a dollar an hour, that's .7 mil/year!! I think they could do away with the ads then. Pay for better server hosting. Include the software costs, et. al. And spend more time, fixing stuff on the site.Comment
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They are doing MOO3, no?Comment
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IFGM is a loser. Two things they're software as GP pointed out and they haven't turned a profit in the last two years, but their stock price stayed pretty much level through out until recently. They're also primarily PC (72%) instead of consule which hurts. Basically they needed a good beating. 2.61 may be a bit low but 11 was way to high.
Eidos is also getting beaten for similar reasons. In fact the two's price patterns are very similar.
I often invest in game companies so I did research on them a while back.Accidently left my signature in this post.Comment
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And I would have to sell my left nut for medical research! Just say no to the alternative revenue model!I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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And just how are you going to ship out millions of copies when you have no capitalOriginally posted by isaac brock
oh, you're right... we can kiss civ3 goodbye. Because it makes sense for them not to release a game that they expect to sell tons of copies of.
I think if they're losing money they'd want to release civ 3 faster, not slower. Don't make everyone so upset over your childish and irrational opinions.
Pull it out of yer arse?
You think distrubors are retailers are going to say "We will take it for free, just promise us it sells good!"
Hah
I know what im talking about mr.Brock. You dont!
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Oh, come on!! Software costs very little to produce and duplicate. The costs are in the development. They will ship a selling game. At that point it's got a huge contribution to earnings. And even if they were in extremis, they would just sell the license to smoebudy else.Comment
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Anybody interested in my Apolyton revenue model?Comment
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The costs are in the development
They're actually in marketing if the financial statements are to be believed. Civ3 will be fine, but what about Civ3MP.Accidently left my signature in this post.Comment
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GP: are you baked?!
It would just be a license for MarkG and DanQ to sit around on their asses all day watching TV and waiting for the checks roll in.
Then you would never get branching threads!I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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