Sim Civilization!

[Jason Beaudoin]

Thanks for the info Earthling7! I never knew that Sid had tried that out, and I guess he's right. There would be a lot of watching rather than playing.

[Sabre2th]

Why do people keep trying to do this? If you make it that different, it's not civ. If you want a game like SimCity, play SimCity. Civ is unique in many ways. If you make it like other games, it loses what makes it special. Leave civ alone.

[dainbramaged13]

maybe it oculd be a multiplayeronly game

[Sava]

Originally posted by UberKruX
how about The Similiazations brought to you my FirMaxis?

where you can get into the head of every Sim in your empire and have them mate or work the fields?

LOL

[Urban Ranger]

Sounds suspiciously like Tropico, which is quite a sad game.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Tjoepie
Sounds like a promissing idea, but I think that before such a game is developed some big progress will have to be made in AI.

The danger if AI is not up to specs in such a game is that it will seriously hamper replayebility.
You'll think , "ok but that's same in Civ" , wéll yes for your opponents , but here you'll even need AI on your side aswell!

You hardly need AI for opponents - this is would be more of a solitaire game like caeasar 3 - opponents would be more abstract - realize thats harder in a nation-building context than a city-building context, but still the idea would be to give up on MP, and, using assymetry between human player and others, have the design subtitute for the AI (am I making sense?) Would not so much need AI for your side, but "models" of behaviour, as simcity has a migration model, transportation model, etc. These could be play tested (aka validated) and refined.

I rather hope that this is what Sid intends as eventual fruit of Maxis colloboration, not more golf games.

LOTM

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Sabre2th
Why do people keep trying to do this? If you make it that different, it's not civ. If you want a game like SimCity, play SimCity. Civ is unique in many ways. If you make it like other games, it loses what makes it special. Leave civ alone.

Or rather what I dont like about Simcity is its limitation to a single city, its failure to fully model a national economy, its absence of national politics, its failure to model research, and its absence of international affairs. Really, "simnation" would be half way between simcity and civ. Not having played Tropico, I cannot comment on that.

LOTM

[Falconius]

Like the great Sid says, "You'd be doing more watching than playing."

Yippee. I may as well watch television.