Psst ... New resources for scenario makers

[Harlan]

Hi,
I've been collecting maps for a long time. With Civ3 coming out soon, I've decided to make a lot of them available to help scenario makers out. Hopefully this will help make scenarios achieve a higher level of quality than in Civ2.

I've thrown them up onto a website, which you can check out at:

http://www.earthisland.org/borneo/other/index.html

However, there are several problems. The first is that the site is now on my work website, and can't stay there for long! Markos, I've emailed you several times about hosting it on Apolyton, but haven't heard back. If anyone else has hosting ideas, I'm all ears, and need something fast.

Second problem is that 99% of the images there are probably trampling copyright laws, so I'd appreciate it if you keep this website low key, and don't link to it or anything, at least until I can figure out the copyright issues.

Thanks.

[Inverse Icarus]

hey Harlan, good show.

i'll be sure to keep it low key, and perhaps we will be working on some scenarios in the future...

[jsw363]

WOW! Harlan, what an impressive collection you've got going there. Brilliant job! I'm sure that it will be of invaluable use to the civ community.

I've only been to the Scenario League Forum, but any chance that someone over there has a place for your site. They're talking about renovating and reinvigorating the site when they see how scenario-friendly civ3 is.

If I ever make a scenario(very ambitious goal for me), I'll be sure to look there first.

[PGM]

Great contribution, Harlan.
Maybe this time I won't find scenarios that take Portugal as a Spanish province.

[Harlan]

Hi,
Thanks guys. Does anyone actually know what the common practice with copyrighted material on the web is?

More maps should be coming soon - I'm emptying out the rest of my map collection.

[Roman]

Wow, Harlan - absolutely amazing!

[Roman]

And not only for scenarios...

[JosefGiven]

Nice one, Harlan

I've just bookmarked that fruit

[Marquis de Sodaq]

If anybody can convert bitmaps or other images to Civ maps (ala Mercator's MapEdit program), I can help. As a professional geographer, the world is my desktop! If you need coastlines, elevation, vegetation, there is data available.

That said, I am at work. But if you are serious, and need input, PM me about what you need for your scenario.

Samples:

[Harlan]

Roman,
Pray tell, what are these other uses? With your use of the leering emoticon, looks like you want to do something lewd with them!

Marquis,
That image you attached looks awesome. Why don't you do up one for the whole Old World, and I'll add it to my site! If you could keep the level of detail high, that would be great. Any other resources out there you'd have to add would be awesome also. DEMs (digital elevation models) and/or topographical maps of these areas would be great too, for people wanting to know where to put hills and mountains.

[Marquis de Sodaq]

vegetation classes:

[Harlan]

Marquis,
I'm having trouble downloading your vegetation classes image. Could you do something else with it so I can see it? Vegetation data is of course extremely key. Any chance you could get historical data too?

[Henrik]

Harlan the map of European Country Populations around 1600, actually gives the "cities 1715" when I click at it...

[JosefGiven]

Tell you what, dudes, an invaluable resource for historical maps is
The Times : History of the World isbn: 0 7230 0894 9

This is my favourite of all books, and contains glorious maps from all important eras of history. Fantastic.

Similarly, try this on for size:

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/map_sites/hist_sites.html

[BeBMan]

Harlan, great work!

Marquis, the first pic you posted here looks like a computer generated map/landscape. If that is right can you recomment software for that purpose?