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  • #16
    The advantage of the War Elephant is that is does not require any resources to construct, otherwise the advantage of this special unit is lost (Knights require horses and iron to build, which have to be located or traded for which makes acquiring knights somewhat trickier). Indians can just circumvent this problem. Ivory would cause just the same problem (still have to source the ivory from somewhere) which would make it a pretty pointless special unit.

    Again, this comes down to an issue of game balance, not pinpoint accuracy.
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    • #17
      There is a "standard" elephant. It's called a "knight". And I doubt that the elephant will be obsolete in the early Middle Ages. I also think that the Elephant was already found under its usual place under Polytheism.

      Why does a UU's uniqueness have to be in a/d/m points?
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      • #18
        Elephant should be a separated unit maybe...

        Elephants were used by many civilisations. Carthagians, Indians... Someone said that Alexander the Great got some elephants from Indians after doing peace with them. Elephants aren't a special discovery from a civilisation. Any civ that get some elephants is able to do it. It's not like pretty special Greek strategies that formed there troops (thus pretty distinctive phalanx and others). It's not either like a technological feat as a specific tank or F16. It's simply an elephant, and wether it is used by a civilisation or annother, it's all the same. Poor me... I'd find fun to exchange for some elephants if ivory would be very rare... Rare ressources can be a very distinctive and realistic feature if combined with units.

        Nevermind, I may toggle the special units off because of its "unrealisticness"
        But I still say that elephants aren't a unit specific to given civ.
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        • #19
          Re: Elephant should be a separated unit maybe...

          Originally posted by Trifna
          Elephants were used by many civilisations. Carthagians, Indians... Someone said that Alexander the Great got some elephants from Indians after doing peace with them. Elephants aren't a special discovery from a civilisation. Any civ that get some elephants is able to do it. It's not like pretty special Greek strategies that formed there troops (thus pretty distinctive phalanx and others). It's not either like a technological feat as a specific tank or F16. It's simply an elephant, and wether it is used by a civilisation or annother, it's all the same. Poor me... I'd find fun to exchange for some elephants if ivory would be very rare... Rare ressources can be a very distinctive and realistic feature if combined with units.

          Nevermind, I may toggle the special units off because of its "unrealisticness"
          But I still say that elephants aren't a unit specific to given civ.
          It depends on which civs used them the best.

          Let's be realistic. Elephants were not the main feat of Hannibals army, he used his horses far more effectively in his battles with the romans.

          The Phalanx was purified by Alexander.

          The Legion was purified by Ceaser.

          Porus was the most effective warrior using elephants. And they used them as a standard in their army. They only consisted a small portion of the Carthrage armies. And Alexander never obtained many.

          It relies on tactics and use of your weapon. Like the Egyptians had Chariots......so did everyone else. But the egyptian chariots were better.
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          • #20
            The advantage of the War Elephant is that is does not require any resources to construct, otherwise the advantage of this special unit is lost
            Not if you do my way of Elephants being implemented into the game.

            There is a "standard" elephant. It's called a "knight". And I doubt that the elephant will be obsolete in the early Middle Ages. I also think that the Elephant was already found under its usual place under Polytheism.

            Why does a UU's uniqueness have to be in a/d/m points?
            Yes, the War Elephant comes from a Knight! Why not have it so the War Elephant comes from a standard Elephant?

            PH and CTG please re-read my post again but this time a little more carefully. You must have misinterepreted what I stated. I'm sorry but I can't even reply to your posts anymore because of the lack of corralation your posts had in replying to my previous post. Please reconsider reading my post over again because you obviously had no idea what I was saying.

            I'm also sorry for being rude but your posts in reply to my previous make me think that you don't have any reading comprehension skills at all.
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