Will the possible lack of MP support affect your decision to buy Civ 3?

[SmartFart]

I wont buy Civ III w/o MP included. I'll get a pirate copy instead and they've lost 50$.
Quite simple.
They're great designers,but such a moneysuckers are far and few between.
- They've stopped fixing bugs in Civ2 2 years ago
- They're made SMAC full of bugs which are fixed in SMAX,but they never released free patch to undone bad things in SMAC

And now this?

Just for the record...Civ III will be my only pirate game in my collection.

[Robert]

this poll doesn't have enough options.
neither of the options apply to me.

My vote is: Eventhough I do really care about MP I will buy civ3 anyway thus it won't affect my decision.

[StrategicKing2]

I have one question for the designers of civ 3....
WHAT THE F U C K HAVE YOU BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS..
Take a group of kids just graduating computer science and they would have had this done already.
Nobody likes to JUST play the AI.
We are already jocking for dominace at multiplayer civ 3, to deny us this oppurtunity would be criminal.
So as the Rock would say....
"You can take no-multiplayer civ3, shine it up real nice....Keep shining....TURN THAT SON'A***** SIDE WAYS AND STICK IT UP YOUR CANDY A S S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[ColdWizard]

no mp?

i think i'll go and learn how to play starcraft

[Provost Harrison]

I have coped for the vast majority of my life without MP so I am sure I can manage a bit longer. I always enjoyed playing civ/civ2 on the games merits so if the AI is significantly improved, I will cope for a few months without MP...

...and it could be hidden under New Game, but I would doubt it...

[Sabre2th]

Nobody likes to JUST play the AI.

You would be surprised at the number of people at Apolyton who don't play MP.

Originally posted by StrategicKing2
I have one question for the designers of civ 3....
WHAT THE F U C K HAVE YOU BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS..
Take a group of kids just graduating computer science and they would have had this done already.
Nobody likes to JUST play the AI.
We are already jocking for dominace at multiplayer civ 3, to deny us this oppurtunity would be criminal.
So as the Rock would say....
"You can take no-multiplayer civ3, shine it up real nice....Keep shining....TURN THAT SON'A***** SIDE WAYS AND STICK IT UP YOUR CANDY A S S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

This is not constructive at all and there is absolutely no proof that it will ship without MP. Yet

[lockstep]

Originally posted by Gramphos
How come that 50% have voted aginst MP?

I did note vote against multiplayer, I just wanted to straighten out that I´ll buy Civ3 even if MP is not included initially.

Civ3 will most likely be a fun, engrossing, and (after the first patches) highly balanced game. What bothers me about this MP delay are the potential lukewarm reviews. I don´t want Civ3 to get 'four out of five stars' on average, to sell about 500k copies and to be the last major TBS-game. I want Civ3 to score a record 97%, to sell millions of copies and to reawaken the TBS-genre so that I can enjoy even better games in the years to come.

Believe me, I´d rest easier if I knew Civ3 supported MP from the outset.

[Rhysie]

Originally posted by StrategicKing2
Nobody likes to JUST play the AI.

I love to just play the AI. I've never played civ1 or civ2 in multiplayer mode, in fact I've never owned a copy of either which I could play in multiplayer mode, but I don't care, I love to play against the computer. I play for fun, not just for challenge, so I don't care if the AI can't smack me around. Its nice to know that after my struggle with them I'm most likely going to end up on top of the pile.

Also I have a cruddy internet connection and all my friends have a different taste in computer games. As such I have no desire to play on an awful connection against someone I have never met. I might as well just play against the computer, there's less trouble involved.

I suspect that the vast majority of civ players are similar to me, its just that the vocal element loves MP and thinks the AI is too weak to be fun. I don't think it will be a huge blow to Firaxis if only the people who want to play SP buy it.

Also, I think its stupid to download it. Why not just wait for the MP to come out, and then either buy the MP version or buy the standard version and get get the MP patch if it is free. People have said that the release should be delayed so that they can release both at once. Why? If you feel that way, just wait for the MP part to come out, and pretend the release _was_ delayed. Why do people like me who only want to play SP have to wait for a feature to be added which we wouldn't use? It wouldn't speed up the developement of MP for them to not release the SP version as planned.

[Kaak]

jdd:

A lot of the people you see on here aren't people that were so excited about civ3 they joined the forums. We are die hard civ2ers that have been on these forums for years. The fact remains that they are trying to milk us for money, and it is wrong. They could have easily included an mp function, even if it made them wait to release it some time in november or early december (which would have been a better call on their part from a marketing stand point i think). jerks...

[OzzyKP]

!Viva La Revolution!

Alright all you irate Civ Fans. Time to channel your anger and try to avert this tragedy. I found a few ways to ease everyone in contacting Firaxis and giving them a piece of your mind. Send lots of e-mails, and persuade all your friends who feel the same about Multiplayer to write lots of e-mails. Tell Firaxis that we are pissed, tell them we won't buy two half-games. Tell them we want MP integrated into the game and sold upfront with the rest of it.

E-Mail Dan Magaha

E-Mail Kelley Gilmore Communications Manager

and E-Mail Ask The Civ Team

If people know of other e-mail addresses to use to contact Firaxis please let us know.

Also be sure to refer them to some hot threads on the topic, with lots of people who are hot under the collar about this issue. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=26096

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=26117

Now! MPers, let your fingers do the talking. Give Firaxis a piece of your mind.

[marcuspeddle]

Re: !Viva La Revolution!

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Time to channel your anger and try to avert this tragedy. I found a few ways to ease everyone in contacting Firaxis and giving them a piece of your mind. Send lots of e-mails, and persuade all your friends who feel the same about Multiplayer to write lots of e-mails. Tell Firaxis that we are pissed, tell them we won't buy two half-games. Tell them we want MP integrated into the game and sold upfront with the rest of it.

Give Firaxis a piece of your mind.

I don't think channelling anger is going to get you anywhere. They're going to read your 'piece of mind' and then delete it and put your address in their Block Sender list. I certainly wouldn't consider the opinion of anyone who writes me e-mail and says 'shove your SP civ3 up your a**. I'm pissed!'. Instead of writing angry, immature rubbish to Firaxis why don't you send a polite inquiry to see when MP can be added and if it will cost extra money. As we saw in another post, a Firaxis representative said she would send MP as soon as it was ready. She didn't say 'I'll sell you MP as soon as it's finished.' I'm sure a lot of you want interaction with the developers of Civ3 (everyone seems very pleased when Dan posts here to answer a question or clear up some matter) but sending rage mail is just going to reduce the amount of feedback from Firaxis. As the saying goes, "Honey attracts more bees than vinegar."

[Falconius]

Originally posted by CyberShy
this poll doesn't have enough options.
neither of the options apply to me.

My vote is: Eventhough I do really care about MP I will buy civ3 anyway thus it won't affect my decision.

Same Here. I like MP AND SP. I like SP anough that I'll go out and buy Civ III the day it's released. I wasn't going to play MP immediately anyway, not until I played a few SP games to get the hang of it. So a delay isn't that bad.

If I am expected to pay EXTRA for MP, however, I won't be too pleased.

But let's face it, this is an electronic drug here. If our dealer says the good sh*t isn't available yet, but we have some decent sh*t to tide us over in the meantime, guess what the average addict will do.

[Master Marcus]

Very good poll. I choose " still buy it if the SP is extremly good ". I don't play MP because it's too slow, but I'll watch carefully the reviews and if the AI doesn't meet my expectations in the SP that remains, I may reconsider buying it ( anyway I won't buy it the first week of its release ). The door's wide open for MoO3, the only problem: the same publisher Infogrames......

[Felch]

Ozzy, don't hassle people when they're putting together a game. You're being less of a concerned fan and more an ingrateful jackass. Besides there are some people here who would like to see the game finished this year.

[isaac brock]

Re: Re: !Viva La Revolution!

Originally posted by Anatolia


I don't think channelling anger is going to get you anywhere. They're going to read your 'piece of mind' and then delete it and put your address in their Block Sender list. I certainly wouldn't consider the opinion of anyone who writes me e-mail and says 'shove your SP civ3 up your a**. I'm pissed!'. Instead of writing angry, immature rubbish to Firaxis why don't you send a polite inquiry to see when MP can be added and if it will cost extra money. As we saw in another post, a Firaxis representative said she would send MP as soon as it was ready. She didn't say 'I'll sell you MP as soon as it's finished.' I'm sure a lot of you want interaction with the developers of Civ3 (everyone seems very pleased when Dan posts here to answer a question or clear up some matter) but sending rage mail is just going to reduce the amount of feedback from Firaxis. As the saying goes, "Honey attracts more bees than vinegar."

I don't think anatolia meant to say "shove your SP up your ass," he meant for people to send a polite but subtlely pissed letter to firaxis. If people are just calmly saying "Oh, multiplayer is not included. That's too bad, but it's all we should expect" then why should firaxis go to the trouble of including multiplayer? If you send them a polite but firm mail, that makes it clear that you are angry and won't buy without multiplayer, they may be more likely to give in. I don't think a campaign of friendly inquiries will do the trick. Did women get the vote by ringing up the government and cordially requesting it?