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For those who know about Chinese history, was there really a "rider" unit? Anyone else besides me wish they had gone with the Boxer (pic: http://teachpol.tcnj.edu/amer_pol_hi...mbnail257.html) or some other unit instead? Even though the Boxer could hardly have been said to usher in a golden age....
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You are in the wrong Forum. This is Civ3-General, you should have posted this in Civ3-Civilizations. I bet Mark will move this.
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Riders a good unit i just don't like the name, maybe it will grow on me.. maybe they'll change the name.
If the mongols aren't in their horsepower can be shown through the chinese(who were influenced by mongols and are basically the same) in their rider unit, (super knight) , the eastern horse cavalry were powerful and conquered a large empire (Mongol Hordes) and the chinese had this too.
The boxer rebellion was at a time when china was overrun by the european powers so i don't see how this would relate it to a golden age, boxers sound far less interesting than Super Knights (knights have been my favourite early unit for a long time)
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Riders suck. The name is stupid, and the unit is stupid. The Chinese had no special military unit. Now for some reason they get the world's best knights?
Persians had better knights. Turks had better knights. Maybe they could have gone with "Horse Archers", again not a typically Chinese unit, but at least a historically significant one.
Chinese already had great civ attributes, now a killer unit.
Faster and with enough defense to withstand a counterattack.
Black Riders = Nazgul. Three movies coming soon...
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Chinese special unit could have been an inexpensive worker unit that excelled at building huge fortifications...Best MMORPG on the net: www.cyberdunk.com?ref=310845
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Who knows and who cares? It is a game, for Christs sake, lets make it fun and stop nitpicking little things. We will not know how it works until we see the whole game working in unison...you can't just an oilpainting from a square milimetre of canvas now, can you? It's whinge, whinge, whinge with some of you, and for no good reason either
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...which would virtually guarantee that China could never have a golden age (when was the last time you saw a settler/worker win a battle?)Originally posted by The Mad Viking
Chinese special unit could have been an inexpensive worker unit...Comment
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In my last civ2 game one of my settlers building a fort in a mountain fended off three aggressive barbarian horsemen... So it's not impossible.Originally posted by RobC
...which would virtually guarantee that China could never have a golden age (when was the last time you saw a settler/worker win a battle?)Comment
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But dont workers in Civ 3 have 0 defence??Originally posted by Rhysie
In my last civ2 game one of my settlers building a fort in a mountain fended off three aggressive barbarian horsemen... So it's not impossible.
I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).Comment
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well, the boxers werent really an elite group of soldiers, they were chinese citizens who wanted to expel "the white man", and used martial arts to beat the sh*t out of them.
stupid white men said they were boxing.
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OK, how would you feel if instead of archers we had the clown unit, who hurls coconut cream pies at the enemy? Is it unthinkable that a phony unit could mar your enjoyment of the game even a little? (And no, the rider, if it is indeed a phony unit as I suspect, won't put me off that much, not as much as a clown).Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Who knows and who cares? It is a game, for Christs sake, lets make it fun and stop nitpicking little things. We will not know how it works until we see the whole game working in unison...you can't just an oilpainting from a square milimetre of canvas now, can you? It's whinge, whinge, whinge with some of you, and for no good reason either
If the rider is a phony unit, that is; it doesn't ring true to me, but then I admit to my ignorance of Chinese military history.
Not whinging, just discussing. If anyone knows more about the subject, I'd be glad to hear. But it sounds to me, and forgive me if it seems rude to say so, that you are just whining about whining. If you really don't care, why bother to reply to this thread at all?Comment
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Ooooh, get you
Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda SmithComment
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Not the Boxer
They were just a bunch of rebels with no real discipline and organisation. They thought they had supernatural powers that in fact did not exist.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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Originally posted by El hidalgo
OK, how would you feel if instead of archers we had the clown unit, who hurls coconut cream pies at the enemy?
So, who's going to make the "Clown Civ" scenario, huh?
You know, King Bozo of the Circus Clowns. The special unit could be the "pie-chucker", which, instead of having bonuses in attack, defence, or movement, instead lowers opposing units' defence ratings! Think of the endless possibilities!!!
Sounds;
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Whoopie-cushions
nose-horns
water squirts
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movement with big floppy feet
attack with cream pies
etc
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pie factory (in lieu factory)
circus (in lieu colliseum)
Just think of the diplomacy! You know - you go to speak to King Bozo, and he arrives to stupid clown music. When you actually speak to him, he squirts you with water from a flower on his chest, then shakes you hand in apology, only to find he's got a buzzer in his hand
The possiblities are endless!!!
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