whats better, ctp or civ3?

[Adagio]

There's no doubt that Civ3 at current state has less bugs and is much funnier than any ctp game will ever be. There's only one reason why I play ctp2 now, and it is, that civ2 doesn't work on my machine and I don't have civ1 to PC (only to my good ol' Amiga, which sadly doesn't work anymore). Right now I have the Apolypton patch installed, but it seems like it only makes mnior changes. But any game where the creators doesn't make the game to work, isn't worth buying...

Conclusion:

Civilization 3 is going to be the best Civ style game ever made, there's no doubt about that...I'm just going to it

[Grim Legacy]

Re: whats better, ctp or civ3?

Originally posted by splangy
were having a heated discusion about this in the ctp forums so i felt it was only fair to post it here, also becouse that thread has degenerated to me vs the entire ctp2 comunity, so im out numbered about 5 to 1 ( )

anyone who thinks its unfair to judge civ3 to ctp2 becouse civ3 isn't out yet, just base it off of your current feelingsabout civ3 and your feelings about ctp.

Aaah gotta love those questions that need no answering!

[campmajor!]

Originally posted by Mister Pleasant
Hey Kimbro, Skanky, and Tiberius:

As for hacked to death, if you are too lazy to download some zip files and extract them to a folder you can use your imagination. So yeah, if the hacked version of a game is really good, then you count that version. It's all about the fun, right? My complaint with CTP2 was that Activision released a development platform and called it a game.

Isn't it sad that nowadays it is accepted that you sell a game with so much bugs in it? Sure, you can download a patch or 2, install several mods (made by people not working for that company). But if you buy a new computer and want to install it again. Then you have to install it, download the mods/patches again or copy the allready downloaded programs from your old computer to the new one and install it again. Then if you adjusted it yourself, tou must do it again now...

You get my point? Civ2 is still playable from the original CD. Maybe some minor bugs were in it, but not so that it is no fun playing in it.

Ctp2 was nice, but really not much fun. As said before, you have allready won, before you even get to the new advances....

My general opinion of ctp2 is

My opinion on how civ3 is going to look:

But my final judgement will come when I have played civ3.

[Grim Legacy]

LOL. Depending on your interpretation of the patching numbering scheme, Civ2 was all except flawless upon release.

The original updates ranged up to 1.42 and the add-on scenario packs incorporated further updates, not to mention the final MP edition (which I never had so I could be wrong there ).

Even Q3A has so far only gotten up to 1.29 or so.

And Civ2 was somewhat unplayable from the orig CD...do endless waves of destroyers against your CF sound familiar? Or fortified fighters in open terrain?

[MarkG]

if only some people left a tiny possibility that there are people who are not morons and disagree with them, this thread would be a much better one....

[Tiberius]

I still play Civ2 after ... 5 or 6 years ? I can't even remember exactly how many years I played Civ, but certainly countless hours of joy and fun.

Ctp2? Until I still have some free space on my hard drive, I won't delete it, but otherwise...

What can be said more?

[Mannamagnus]

Even pong was/is more fun than CtP2! Lets move this thread to the silly questions forum.

[Grim Leaper]

Of the 3 civ style games i own (civ1 & 2, SMAC, CtP2) civ1 and 2 are the ones i play most, but i would play civ2 more if i could get the FW cd to work

To me civ1 is a better game to play than CtP2. MedMod2 is a huge improvement (and i'd like to thank WesW for his work) but i just don't find the game enjoyable. Craptivision just tried to make civ different, instead of better. Some interesting ideas but not playable at all.

On the bugs issue, i am not that worried about compatiablely bugs (with different systems and hardware) because it is not possible to check for every situation. But gameplay bugs should not be present when the game is released

CtP was a waste of money to me, which i could of spent on 2 albums or 3000 penny sweets. Damn them

[Grumbold]

Civ has definitely got the better interface but CtP/2 did manage to introduce some very good new ideas into the genre and boy did it need it after 8 years. Unfortunately the Craptivision suits bundled the game out the door incomplete. However the beauty is that the one thing they did get right was the SLIC code. This basically means that almost every part of the gameplay could be changed to suit the mod makers. CtP may be a less balanced game to play in multiplayer but as a form of one player entertainment I have grow to enjoy it more because of the variety of options.

Civ3 needs to surpass CtP's advanced features and customisability while retaining Civ's clean interface and playability.

[red_jon]

CTP3!!

[rah]

I played CTP II. It had some real nice concepts that I really liked. But by the end of the second game, I was bored because the game and the AI sucked. But since I liked some of the concepts, I downloaded the mods and tried again. They helped but didn't help enough. So while I have great respect and appreciation for all those that contributed to the mods, the game, even moded, still sucked.

CivIII better be better.

RAH

[connorkimbro]

As for hacked game you know you would get on your knees and again, this rather amusing bit is censored for content if someone could hack Civ2 and fix some of the more agregious flaws.

Blah blah blah HACKED TO DEATH blah blah blah STILL SUCKS ASS. NOT WORTH MY MONEY.

As for hacked to death, if you are too lazy to download some zip files and extract them to a folder you can use your imagination.

I did that, dumbass.

So yeah, if the hacked version of a game is really good, then you count that version.

Not in my opinion. That would be like saying civ2 sucks unless you change the rules.txt all around then it's good, so the game is good. Something along those lines. The customizeability included with a game should only serve to give the game different changes, different scenarios, whatever. It's not like. . [activision]uhh. . well. . here's the basic structure and graphics along with some customizing tools, could YOU guys please finish the game for us?[/activision]

And if you have not played CTP2 with the mods, then don't make the comparison.

I have, by the way. I want those 10+ hours back, too, dammit.

How the hell can you compare two games you haven't played?

I don't need to, dumbass, i only need comare ctp and civ2. Even that is a laughable comparison. Didn't you read that the FIRST time i wrote it?

Now, my last post wasn't insulting, i thought it was pretty reasonable. The only bad things i had to say were about the game ctp2, which in my opinion is over all a pretty ****ty game, hacked or not. But then you come out all anal on me. So you wanna act like as ass? I'll treat you like an ass. Learn to frickin read.

[tniem]

Originally posted by ADG
There's no doubt that Civ3 at current state has less bugs and is much funnier than any ctp game will ever be.

Yeah I sure love those games by Sid. They are just so funny.

[Ralf]

The Activision-team never understood the danger of advertising CTP, as "CIVILIZATION - Call to power" (in that order, and with that emphasize) - then giving the unsuspecting customer a game that was fundamentally different in each and every possible way.

Not only that: They misinterpreted CTP's good sale-figures as "thumbs up" to their way of designing a Civ-game.

They simply never understood that most customers had bought CTP on impuls because of the expected CIVILIZATION promise - NOT because of the Call to power game-design. By the time CTP-2 was released, reality had finally caught up with these guys. And we all know the end of that story.

[SK138]

I play Civ2 over CTP 1 and 2 so Civ3 will definetly be better. I will admit that CTP had some good ideas, but most of those ideas were in SMAC so you can expect them to be in Civ3, too.