Naked Statue of Liberty in Civ III?!?!

[Timeline]

Don't believe me? Click here Click on image 4.


No it’s not a link to a porn site and no this isn’t a joke.

[Dan Magaha FIRAXIS]

Re: Naked Statue of Liberty in Civ III?!?!

Originally posted by Timeline
Don't believe me? Click here Click on image 4.


No it’s not a link to a porn site and no this isn’t a joke.

That would be the Colossus of Rhodes. See:

http://ce.eng.usf.edu/pharos/wonders/colossus.html

Dan

[Acemo]

Unless The Statue of Liberty grew a mustache , I would say that is some sort of Neptune wonder?

Dan,
I thought the Colossus was astride the port/bay

[Timeline]

ok, sorry to waste your time Dan.

I thought the Colossus was astride the port/bay

yes, me too It certainly is in the picture Dan gave us, and the old Civ2 video.

[Dan Magaha FIRAXIS]

Originally posted by Timeline
ok, sorry to waste your time Dan.



yes, me too It certainly is in the picture Dan gave us, and the old Civ2 video.

Based on what I recall of my Ancient Studies courses back in undergrad days, I remember a conversation where my incredibly burned-out professor explained that, though the traditional lore (and older illustrations) claimed that the Colossus straddled the entrance of the harbor, physics and trigonometry have all but proven this impossible, because it would have had to be much, much taller.

For an interesting comparison between the Statue of Liberty and the Colossus, check out this site:

http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/colrhode.htm

Fascinating stuff.


Dan

[Juggernaut]

Any plans to expose the rest of the Wonders on the website soon Dan? Really wanna know if ie. the Internet wonder is in...

[Timeline]

From the website Dan posted

Although the statue has been popularly depicted with its legs spanning the harbor entrance so that ships could pass beneath, it was actually posed in a more traditional Greek manner: nude, wearing a spiked crown, shading its eyes from the rising sun with its right hand, while holding a cloak over its left.

No ancient account mentions the harbor-spanning pose and it seems unlikely the Greeks would have depicted one of their gods in such an awkward manner. In addition, such a pose would mean shutting down the harbor during the construction, something not economically feasible.

Well, I have to give you a complement: looks like you guys at Firaxis, know what your doing. Not that anyone said you didn’t .

Keep it real!!

[Stefu]

...and considering what's between the statue's legs, I'm sure Firaxis wouldn't want to reveal Statue of Liberty being transgendered.

[KrazyHorse]

Stefu, I knew you'd have your eye on that.

Seriously, though, I doubt the ability of an ancient civilisation to build a statue as massive as the colossus with its legs spread across a harbour. Actually, I wouldn't trust an engineer from today who claimed he could do such a thing with copper; the strength's just not there. Building something straight up is easy; building something at an angle is hard.

[hetairoi22]

Actually it was made of a wooden skeleton covered with bronze plates.

Nice picture by the way! (actually all the graphics are GREAT! Good work FIRAXIS.)

I know it isn't REALITIC, but it would be cool if it had one lge at each side of the harbour entry.

[Stefu]

Makes you wonder why the Colossus wasn't a female. After all, having a giant female with legs spread open for an entry would have really signified what entering to harbour meant for those sailors.

Americans wasted a good opportunity with Statue of Liberty, it seems.

[Bereta_Eder]

Speaking of historical accuracy why did you design Alexander with short hair?

Where is his glamorous, aristocratic, rebel free long hair that I remember from school picture's of statues?! huh?

He looks more like an ancient slave!!!! (that had short hair)

I always meant to ask you this

Really, this is not important and congrats for the colossus background. If you feel like it, answer me


Cheers

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by hetairoi22
Actually it was made of a wooden skeleton covered with bronze plates.

Was it? Why is it represented as green, then? I thought bronze didn't turn green as it aged. Might be mistaken, though.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Stefu
Makes you wonder why the Colossus wasn't a female. After all, having a giant female with legs spread open for an entry would have really signified what entering to harbour meant for those sailors.

Americans wasted a good opportunity with Statue of Liberty, it seems.

Actually Stefu, the French built it. Then they took it down, carted it into crates and sailed them to America.

Then the Americans decided a huge statue of a naked lady in the throes of sexual orgasm was the wrong image for their country and covered her up.

Okay, I may have made the last bit up ....

[The Mad Viking]

You're probably thinking of brass. Bronze certainly turns green as it ages, as the high copper content oxidizes.