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  • #16
    Well, I don't think it would have to happen on purpose, the game will be more complex than civ2 and the graphics more advanced which makes it harder to create your own graphics and therefore scens and mods. You already had it in SMAC, I didn't saw any new units (since they were semi-3D) or terrains and I believe it was hard to make scens in CTP as well.

    Now I think of it, maybe it's a good thing that civ3 doesn't have very advanced graphics (3D stuff and all) because that would make it impossible for the abundant majority gamers to make their own graphics.
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    • #17
      A Firaxian confirmed that there would be support for unanimated custom units to make life easier for the modders.
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      • #18
        civ2 expansions kept the civ genre alive for years....
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        • #19
          Originally posted by MarkG
          civ2 expansions kept the civ genre alive for years....
          I disagree, Civ2 itself has kept the civ genre alive for years, the expansions haven't really added much to the game (TOT is great, but it's just Civ2 with juiced-up graphics and the multiplayer features that were lacking).

          All I can say is, bring on Civ3!
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          • #20
            Firaxis aren't actually developing Civ3, they're just having a laugh at our expense!
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            • #21
              Markos, there only two things that the packs really added to civ2, which were the scen editor and the MP feature and the latter arguably should have been in the original version in the first place. (maybe they weren't technically ready, I don't know)
              They didn't need to release 2 scen packs, MGE (Was that released in a pack? Can't remember) and a full charge ToT for that, did they?

              I suppose it isn't a problem when you have enough cash to spend but my budget is somewhat tighter than that.
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              • #22
                their value in keeping civ2 alive was not so much in their additions, but in introducing the game to new people and "reminding" the market of the existance of civ2.....
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                • #23
                  You mean that Microprose was able to make more bucks out of it?

                  No, seriously, I think they could have accomplished that well enough by re-releasing with some slick promotion. That stuff even works with people who already have the game in question, I’ve always been tempted to repurchase SC2000 every time I saw it in the store.

                  Besides, I’m not saying they shouldn’t have released anything at all, they could have released the scen packs with the MP pack in one expansion pack, or just held all up until ToT.

                  BTW, can I puh-lease get a "President of the Official Apolyton Non-Aligned Civers Club" title?
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                  • #24
                    I think an expansion pack would be good, if it added MORE unique Civs.

                    I am thinking, right now, of a Civ3 expansion pack including the Arabs, the Japanese, the Incas, etc... That would be really nice.
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                    • #25
                      A pack that simply finishes an unfinished game would be very, very bad, but if they made a pack with extra civs, music, advisor movies, or whatever, I would definately buy it.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Colon
                        BTW, can I puh-lease get a "President of the Official Apolyton Non-Aligned Civers Club" title?
                        If you do this, aren't you just aligned with a new group?

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                        • #27
                          Good point, isn't that what Non-aligned would mean...
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                          • #28
                            If Civ III does not include a scenario editor and a map editor- I will probably buy the expansion pack if the game is good enough without it... I love civ, but I will then hold a grudge against Sid Meier for beign a ripoff and will no longer follow him blindly.

                            SMAC's expansion pack was necesasry to have fun with the game if you didn't know how to edit the text files... and even then the Faction Editor frequently crashed.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              I think an expansion pack would be good, if it added MORE unique Civs.

                              I am thinking, right now, of a Civ3 expansion pack including the Arabs, the Japanese, the Incas, etc... That would be really nice.
                              I agree, this would be a worthwhile expansion pack - assuming that the Civs are truly unique. Otherwise some enterprising Apolytoner could just create a mod with appropriate civ names, units, etc to add just about any civ into the mix.

                              I also believe that an expansion pack should not be a bug fix, but should add something new to the gameplay. Although hopefully not something that should have been there from the beginning.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DarkCloud
                                If Civ III does not include a scenario editor and a map editor
                                It's been said quite often that it will. Firaxis has confirmed this.

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