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  • #16
    Originally posted by Provost Harrison
    And now Firaxis do have a bit of time to 'play around' with civ4 and experiment until they feel compelled to really start production proper.
    They don't have time. They must finish civ3 first !

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    • #17
      After they finish Civ3 of course Then they have plenty of time...
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #18
        I hope that the last patch for Civ 3 will come around 2005. The st patch for Civ 2 was 1998, or 1999, I am not sure... well it was around 3 years from the original release...

        So only after that they can focus on Civ 4

        Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
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        • #19
          Oh, come on. Such teams can do both things at the same time. Take a look at Championship Manager. Sports interactive are doing the CM 2001/2002 and CM 4 at the same time.

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          • #20
            I disagree.

            the gap between civ2 and civ3 was too long.
            All kind of half releases were putted between it (FW, CS, MGE, ToT, SMaC, CtP, CtP2)

            it's good to have one or two packs, but there shouldn't be more then 3 or 4 years between civ3 and civ4.

            They should keep on naming it civx, and not like other games do, give it a new name after any release.
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            • #21
              they shouldnt work on civ 4 till the next breakthru in computer technology,,,
              GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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              • #22
                What's a breakthru for you? Changes happen every day. I know a person who didn't want to buy a PC, because "next month will be sth new, I'll buy it then." and so on, and he didn't buy it for 18 months.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Alex 14
                  Yeah, but Civ 3 will proberly have good demographics, like top five cities and stuff. However i would like to see better ones than in Civ 2, maybee things like top 5 military units.
                  If there is more info, it needs to be able to be disabled for MP. Too much free information about your oponents is available in CIV II and I hope they fix that for CIV III.

                  EON claims he can locate you based on the limitied Demographics available now.
                  While a little far fetched there are currently way too many ways to locate your enemies.


                  RAH
                  It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                  RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • #24
                    What do you mean with "locate"

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Trdi
                      What do you mean with "locate"
                      I guess he means "find your enemy"
                      "We are reducing all the complexity of billions of people over 6000 years into a Civ box. Let me say: That's not only a PkZip effort....it's a real 'picture to Jpeg heavy loss in translation' kind of thing."
                       - Admiral Naismith

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Trdi
                        What's a breakthru for you? Changes happen every day. I know a person who didn't want to buy a PC, because "next month will be sth new, I'll buy it then." and so on, and he didn't buy it for 18 months.
                        Wise guy. He doesn't really need a PC, it seems, so he can wait forever
                        Or until Civ III release, at least
                        "We are reducing all the complexity of billions of people over 6000 years into a Civ box. Let me say: That's not only a PkZip effort....it's a real 'picture to Jpeg heavy loss in translation' kind of thing."
                         - Admiral Naismith

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Alex 14
                          I mean that every civilization should have its own city style and stuf like that.
                          [...]
                          Wouldnt it be good if every civilzation had its very own advisors?
                          Well, last sreenshot of domestic advisor seems a Chinese lady to me. May be they are changing their early approach to use Firaxis people as advisor, chosing to customize advisor for every Civ...
                          "We are reducing all the complexity of billions of people over 6000 years into a Civ box. Let me say: That's not only a PkZip effort....it's a real 'picture to Jpeg heavy loss in translation' kind of thing."
                           - Admiral Naismith

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                          • #28
                            Well after civ3 we have time, both Firaxis and Apolyton combined, to formulate new ideas and expand on what was good with Civ3. We are all accruing experience of this genre all the time. We know what was good about civ2 compared to civ and learned from this. Now we will have civ3 and be able to compare with civ2 and see what was a move forward and backwards. And we can also throw SMAC into this. These blokes do have a lot of experience with this kind of game when we add Colonization and SMAC, and then other strategy games, not necessarily of this subgenre of TBS.

                            Trust their judgement, they certainly didn't disappoint with civ2. It was still the game I know and love but improved, without messing it up. I also think SMAC worked well, it was still the same gameplay, although it was quite a radical and brave departure in many ways. But it worked well, and again, lessons have been learned from this game, arguably the most radical departure (if we exclude CtP1/2 which fell flat on it's arse).

                            Sid et al. have proved their ability and capability. I think civ3 will be smashing once complete, and civ4 even better as everyone is still learning about the game. Each game is another point on the curve so be able to work towards, and nearer to, the ultimate civ genre game. This should be better.

                            And Raz, it would be nice to have VR with the diplomacy advisor. Do you think she would let me get her on the bargaining table
                            Speaking of Erith:

                            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                              And Raz, it would be nice to have VR with the diplomacy advisor. Do you think she would let me get her on the bargaining table
                              "Maybe I can persuade your excellency to build embassies, so that we may traffic freely with other nations."
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                              If you can't solve it, it's not a problem--it's reality
                              "All is well your excellency, and that pleases me mightily"

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                              • #30
                                Yes, find.

                                I.e. using two horseman out on the board and checking "closest to which city" to triangulate the position.

                                Or random clicking on squares until the map doesn't center, (means you've found a city)

                                Or using the find city option once it's built a wonder.

                                Just too many loopholes.

                                Too much free information in MP. Even the top 5 city list provides information that can be exploited.

                                RAH
                                For a full list, see Ming's Cheat list.
                                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                                RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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