FGN interview w/ Firaxis...

[yin26]

I agree, of course. But if you're gonna hype a game, hype what actually MEANS something to gamers, for goodness sake! Heck, I'd pay $50 for Civ2 again if it had killer AI.

[Rasputin]

Cant access that website from work, did they mention anything about MP ???

[Sabre2th]

Originally posted by Rasputin
Cant access that website from work, did they mention anything about MP ???

FGN Online: What can expect from the multiplayer side of things?

Jeff Briggs: We're working on some cool approaches to multiplayer that we’re not yet ready to talk about.

[Rasputin]

Thanks for that.
notihng new then , i heard that statement long time ago...

[Ralf]

Originally posted by yin26
Listen, Diplomacy and Trade are very complex things that will only have meaning in single player if the comp has been thoroughly built around it. The fact that NOTHING has been mentioned of that is cause for concern.

Well, I certainly understand your concern, and also the crucial importance of it. But, I also believe that they gonna concentrate on the AI totally, first then most game-mechanical details already is put into place. Perhaps these details already is.

But yes, they could at least give us some principal hints about the AI-guidelines in some future Civ-3 website update. Also, what are their objectives and goals, comparing with the AI in Civ-2 and SMAC, and how (in princip) are they planning to achieve that?

[Sabre2th]

No problem Rasputin

[joseph1944]

I know how they can make the game stronger.
Level 7; You will never win, so don't even try it.
Code one; build warriors at a rate of 4 to 1 (human)
Code two; Go find human player city.
Code three; Redirect all AIs warrior to attack the Human player.
Code four; Has the asses fall, a little window come up and ask the human player would he/she like to sit back and watch the AIs kill each other or start a new game.
This is the game some of you are asking for right?

[War4ever]

well at least its coming out (hopefully) this year.... i have three weeks of holidays coming .......

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by joseph1944
I know how they can make the game stronger.
Level 7; You will never win, so don't even try it.
Code one; build warriors at a rate of 4 to 1 (human)
Code two; Go find human player city.
Code three; Redirect all AIs warrior to attack the Human player.
Code four; Has the asses fall, a little window come up and ask the human player would he/she like to sit back and watch the AIs kill each other or start a new game.
This is the game some of you are asking for right?

What?

[Swissy]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Just 'cause they're not saying it constantly doesn't mean it ain't there. It's hard to describe to the public what exactly they've done for the AI; that'll just have to wait until we play it.

It would be very easy to say, "the AI civs have been programed to uses every aspect of the game to give the player a challenging game experience."

But maybe that is what the "game balancing" he mentioned is about. They can't say it cause they haven't acheived it, yet.

[joseph1944]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


What?

Its easy. A lot of player want the AI to be the best at everything, moving troops, attacking the Human, using stack formation, build more cities, so if that what they want, all Firaxis has to do is make level 7 so tough that no one, and I mean no can win.

[Darkknight]

YYYEESSS!!!!!! THANKYOU GOD IT'S THIS FALLLL!!!

And more we want more!!



I'm so happpy! When I get back civ 3 might be only a few weeks away. I gotta hug someone ooohh!!!
Best news in months!


Breath breath in out OK...

[Grumbold]

Originally posted by joseph1944

Its easy. A lot of player want the AI to be the best at everything, moving troops, attacking the Human, using stack formation, build more cities, so if that what they want, all Firaxis has to do is make level 7 so tough that no one, and I mean no can win.

No. I think most people want to be able to say "I played a single player game last week on emperor/hard difficulty and won" and have a sense of achievement. Victory should not be guaranteed if you manage to survive the first part of the game, let alone possible with a single city. Creating a "killer mode" difficulty level won't appeal to anyone, especially if the AI still can't navigate from A to B in the most efficient line or understand how to compete effectively in tech research, wonder construction, empire expansion etc. It's like chess - almost all players want a chess simulator that can give them a challenging game while allowing them to win often enough to keep it enjoyable. Giving the AI 8 queens instead of pawns isn't the same thing at all.

[Urban Ranger]

I don't think Jeff Briggs is a big programmer at Firaxis

As for a cheater level, it's ridiciulously easy to program, but who cares? Players want a challenge, not a decimation.

[JellyDonut]

Originally posted by Grumbold

Giving the AI 8 queens instead of pawns isn't the same thing at all.

Tried this in computer chess game. Computer won in 4 moves.