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    I have a question (maybe it has already been discussed, but I can't find it ) :

    Was it anywhere officially confirmed that we will have Civ/CTP government model rather than SMAC SE model in Civ III?

    (The existence of two inventions, Democracy and Republic, does not settle the matter, as they just may allow to use different SE models)

    Martinus
    The problem with leadership is inevitably: Who will play God?
    - Frank Herbert

  • #2
    i don't know how government is handled in civ3, but what does SE stands for.

    and why do i get a message saying

    error at line 150
    expected ')'

    everytime i come to this site
    <Kassiopeia> you don't keep the virgins in your lair at a sodomising distance from your beasts or male prisoners. If you devirginised them yourself, though, that's another story. If they devirginised each other, then, I hope you had that webcam running.
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    • #3
      SE stands for Social Engineering - it was a feature in SMAC allowing you to choose different aspects of your socio-politic system rather than one government.

      And I don't know about the error
      The problem with leadership is inevitably: Who will play God?
      - Frank Herbert

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      • #4
        Firaxis has announced that Civ3 will not use the SE model from SMAC. This probably means that they will use the government model ala Civ2, but probably with minor changes.

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        • #5
          Thanks, Tssha
          The problem with leadership is inevitably: Who will play God?
          - Frank Herbert

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tssha
            Firaxis has announced that Civ3 will not use the SE model from SMAC. This probably means that they will use the government model ala Civ2, but probably with minor changes.
            too bad, i rather liked that model from SMAC....i think....i played it a long time ago.
            this way you could make your own perfect "government"
            <Kassiopeia> you don't keep the virgins in your lair at a sodomising distance from your beasts or male prisoners. If you devirginised them yourself, though, that's another story. If they devirginised each other, then, I hope you had that webcam running.
            Play Bumps! No, wait, play Slings!

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            • #7
              i think you should be ablee to combine different govternemts that they provide for you, resulting in a simpler yet more personalized govt.

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              • #8
                i know im going to get pummeled with "WHERES THE DAMN SOURCE" but i KNOW theyre using civ2 style govts.

                they said Fundamantalism was removed and Nationalism is a less extreme replacement.

                so obviously theres civ2 style govts.
                "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                • #9
                  Yeah, I liked the concept of social engineering. I am surprised they haven't hung on to the concept of it in various ways.

                  For example, you would be able to select the main government which would have it's various modifiers, but you would be able to select certain other options and they would have other modifiers, such as perhaps welfare state, colonialism, stuff like that, you get the idea, that would also have an effect on the functioning of your society...
                  Speaking of Erith:

                  "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                  • #10
                    they said Fundamantalism was removed and Nationalism is a less extreme replacement.
                    I don't think they ever said Nationalism will be a government. Although there was once an ambiguous mentioning of it in a preview (sorry, me too, no sources), it will probably be an advance required to use armies.

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                    • #11
                      For example, you would be able to select the main government which would have it's various modifiers, but you would be able to select certain other options and they would have other modifiers, such as perhaps welfare state, colonialism, stuff like that, you get the idea, that would also have an effect on the functioning of your society...
                      It would be awesome if they would have it this way. I liked being able to have certain adjustments in my government (ala SMAC) but I also like the base gov't model of Civ2. So why don't they put the two together to make an ultimate gov't model?
                      However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lemmy
                        and why do i get a message saying

                        error at line 150
                        expected ')'

                        everytime i come to this site
                        I don't know, but i get it too sometimes.
                        Alex

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                        • #13
                          Absolutely TechWins. There are many different types of democracy; look at the US model compared to the European model for example; two different ways of doing democracy. Look at different types of Monarchy either. Perhaps, for example, Feudalism could bring the option of a feudalism within monarchy!
                          Speaking of Erith:

                          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                          • #14
                            as a PHP-hoe i know thats a coding error.

                            and it's pretty simple to understand for all you non-coders.

                            error at line 150
                            on the 150th line of code

                            expected ')'
                            there is a missing ).

                            () are used in two ways, to enforce the order of operations, or to call a function.

                            I CAN USE THE COOL PHP CODE HIGHLIGHT BUTTON!

                            PHP Code:

                            $num 
                            = (4+3)*(9-2);  //order of operations

                            $sum addnums(4,3); //calling a function that returns an int. 

                            so SOMEONE ::not looking at MarkG:: made an error in coding, and simple forgot a parenthecie (i can't spell).

                            it's a common error, easily fixed, infact i usually forget semicolons
                            "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                            - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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