Snapcase's Pictures

[C. Gerhardt]

Re: Said Pictures

A shame you could not track down any of the aircraft images, it would be nice to see if the Americans and Russians are the only ones with special air power.

I found an airplane for ye. Maybe not must worth cause its a biplane, but whatever.

You can also see something like Anti-Air Guns (FLAK)

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,454261-30,00.html

[joseph1944]

Originally posted by CivPatriot
The next to last unit is the Bradley, on that I agree.


The last unit, the one below the Abrams, titled "again, a tank. You tank historians..." It is a French tank, of WWI manufacture called the Renault FT-17, which actually saw service during both World Wars.

When I first saw this picture, I too thought it was an FT-17, however now that I'm looking at a picture/drawing of this tank, I now belive it is a M-4 Sherman.
Ref: TANK A history of the Armoured Fighting Vehicle, Pub. by Scribners. There is a side drawing (page 38) of the Renault M-17 and it has a very large front sprocket and a smaller rear drive sprocket making the track look like a triangle.
Ref: Military Hardware of World War II, Military Book Club (they have a web site.) Page 188 a front photo of a Renault FT. No way is the game unit and this picture the same.
Ref: M-4 Sherman pub by Blandford Press, London-New York-Sydney. Almost any page in the book. If you look at the game unit, you can see the vertical volute suspension system that made the Sherman famous. Also the white band around the turret. I now remember that I have see picture of the Sherman painted this way.
A side note to the person that was inquiring about the Mr. Christle's tank design of the T-4. If you could see the picture on page 17, you would understand how this tank may have become the Russian T-34.

[Rollo_CH]

One was definitely Mech. Inf. The other one looked like some sort of French tank, which I recognise from Panzer General...now there is an interesting revelation for you

Aah...the venerable Panzer General! Besides Civ one of my most played games. Great "light" strategy, perfect for whipping up some hatred amongst old friends...
Yes i think it may be a french tank too...R20 or R5 something, Renault-made.

[Provost Harrison]

Yep, I used to play PG a fair old bit, but it seems unlikely that every civ is going to have a tank as a special unit. We know the germans have the Panzer, the Americans the Abrams, will the Russians have a T-34 perhaps or the French it's own tank. Perhaps this may be a generic tank; the first type you can acquire from Mobile Warfare. Perhaps Panzers and Abrams become available to the appropriate civs at later dates.

Yeah, I definitely reckon the latter one is an APC, so would represent the Mech. Inf unit.

[JosefGiven]

Re: Bi-plane piccy

Originally posted by C. Gerhardt
I found an airplane for ye. Maybe not must worth cause its a biplane, but whatever.

You can also see something like Anti-Air Guns (FLAK)

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters...261-30,00.html

Nice one, mate

I dare say the biplane is a generic unit for all civs. Perhaps we will have three or four stages in the development of flight this time round:

flight (bi-plane) ==> advanced flight (WWII fighters + bombers) ==> jet propulsion (jets etc.) ==> stealth(stealth fighter/bomber)....

still, who knows?

[Provost Harrison]

Actually looking at http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters...261-29,00.html

One of the bases (the Aztec one: Ecatepec), is producing a spearmen unit, as is St Louis, so this would suggest that the unit thought to be a spearman is indeed a spearman

[C. Gerhardt]

Re: Re: Bi-plane piccy

Originally posted by JosefGiven

flight (bi-plane) ==> advanced flight (WWII fighters + bombers) ==> jet propulsion (jets etc.) ==> stealth(stealth fighter/bomber)....

I certainly hope so! It gives a little diversion in plane and research activity.

[C. Gerhardt]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Actually looking at http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters...261-29,00.html

Guess: Settler is Confirmed: Settler

Look the previously mentioned link at the Lower Left Corner. Here you see a selected unit (settler) with some specifications.
I´m just wandering: What does "sea" means?

[Provost Harrison]

It would appear to suggest the settler is at sea?! Perhaps he is unloading from a boat or something...

[C. Gerhardt]

Re: Re: Said Pictures

I found a new unit!!! And its a confirmed one!!!

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,454261-30,00.html

Watch the lower right corner. This selected city is building an Aircraft Carrier. (My favorite sea unit)

[Provost Harrison]

Also notice in the plan of the city radius in the lower-right hand area, there is also an artillery unit of some description which is 'unloaded'...this also brings up some interesting ideas, do you have to load and unload artillery which are like this before they can be fired? You have to do this on AoE2 with trebuchets and on PG with some of the unmounted artillery which are towed...

[C. Gerhardt]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Also notice in the plan of the city radius in the lower-right hand area, there is also an artillery unit of some description which is 'unloaded'...this also brings up some interesting ideas, do you have to load and unload artillery which are like this before they can be fired? You have to do this on AoE2 with trebuchets and on PG with some of the unmounted artillery which are towed...

I already mentioned this unit whit my plane sighting, although I can´t really say if it is an "unloaded" artillery, an "unloaded" German 88mm FLAK (can also be used as an artillery) or a French Cannon (special unit?) like the 1 introduced in RED ALERT 2. (a very powerfull unit BTW)

[CivPatriot]

It's not a Ft-17(I conceed)

joseph1944 , after looking over the picutres I have of the Ft-17, I agree that it is not it. however, the turret is a different shape than that of the Sherman, it is more rounded a dn sheprical, like those on french tanks. I think it is a french tank, I don't think it is a Sherman.

btw
What is the site of hardware guide you mentioned(the one by the military book cub?

[joseph1944]

Re: It's not a Ft-17(I conceed)

Originally posted by CivPatriot
joseph1944 , after looking over the pictures I have of the Ft-17, I agree that it is not it. however, the turret is a different shape than that of the Sherman, it is more rounded a dn spherical, like those on french tanks. I think it is a french tank, I don't think it is a Sherman.

btw
What is the site of hardware guide you mentioned(the one by the military book cub?

In my book about the Sherman tank I'm looking at page 44 Showing a picture of the M-4A1 and it has a round turret. the early Sherman with a 75 MM gun had a round turret so to speak. When the Army installed the 76 MM gun in later tanks they had to build a bulge at the rear of the turret. The 76 MM gun was longer than the 75 MM gun.
is the site. One of the book I was using is called Military Hardware of World War II, pub by military book club. If you go to their site, they may still have it for orders. It has one picture of a Renault FT on page 188.

[joseph1944]

I just watch the 3 min. video, and it shows the tank in question with a large picture. It is the Sherman for sure. The video shows the 3 part transmission cover that was on the early Sherman. The Sherman later had a solid cast cover, however the early Sherman had the 3 covers.