Radar

[GaryGuanine]

How are surprise attacks possible without stealth technology?

There was that movie that was in theaters recently, I forgot what it was called.

Gary

[TechWins]

How do you think the attack on Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack? The Americans thought that the Japanesse planes were B-17's coming in from the mainland on the radar. I didn't word that very well but who cares. If they would have payed more attention to their radar the attack wouldn't have been as severe.

[SerapisIV]

Originally posted by TechWins
If they would have payed more attention to their radar the attack wouldn't have been as severe.

The radar wasn't even fully operational, it was untried technology (to the USN in the Pacific that is, the British and Germans had already discovered its usefullness), limited range, and not well understood by anyone in command until the war proved its usefullness. Even if the radar operators were listened to, it probably would've been hours before anyone high enough got word of its findings, in other words, after the attack was already under way.

[Inverse Icarus]

bump

[Inverse Icarus]

oh and about sodomy.

in many of the early states founded by religious fanatics and whatnot, anything except for missionary style is illegal under grounds of sodomy.

if you are confused about what missionary style, or any act of sodomy is, please send me a video camera and carmen electra.

thank you.

[Your.Master]

Originally posted by MrFun
You guys are sooo right -- having an avatar that shows affection between two people is a symbol of hatred and violence just like a neo-Confederate avatar is.

Thank you for explaining how an avatar showing affection between two people is a symbol of hatred just like the neo-Confederate avatar that I dislike.

And silly me -- Confederates soldiers should be honored in our memory for fighting for "states" rights. We should also honor the Nazis for fighting for Germany's rights.

Anyway, end of this topic -- I stated my opinion, and then people drew this out into an entire discussion.

Okay, listen:

A) the Swastika is the Ancient Greek symbol of eternity. Not a symbol of evil.
B) at the start of the civil war, there was slavery on both sides. It was an economic war. The emancipation proclamation doesn't even free slaves in the northern states, just slaves in "states rebelling". The slavery idea in the confederate flag was added much later, incorrectly.
C) Not all nazis were evil. They didn't have much of a choice, many (most) didn't even know the extent of what was going on with the Jews. Hitler was evil, sure. A whole pile of others. But don't downplay that they were Germans who sacrificed their lives to what appeared to be an honourable cause. They did not KNOW. I'm sure people would want to strangle you for saying that Nazi's should not be honoured. Before Hitler, the party was basically the same as the American Democrats or the Canadian Liberals.

There is a true story, about a Nazi soldier and a Jewish woman she was ordered to torture, and eventually kill. The camp was conquered before that time. Now they understand, and they travel TOGETHER and teach tolerance. One was tortured and saw friends killed by another, the other was a brutal killer and torturer, and they're friends now. Don't underestimate the situation.

Now, Is anybody going to complain if I put up a Canadian flag that I drew long ago, even though I suck at drawing and the maple leaf therefore (unintentionally) looks like a cannabis leaf?

[MORON]

Builds Adv. Rader with commander

Builds Big Bertha

Shells Mr. FUN

Start another thread for this please...


Anyway, I think radar would be a nice addition to Civ 3. Not so much as sight ranger enhancers but something that affects combat. Besides, I don't think radar can help anyone find that Mech Inf hiding in a forest.

[TechWins]

Here it is. See I posted this thread on June 2nd. I didn't mean to come off as a jackass, sorry if it sounded like it.

[Urban Ranger]

There are things that called strategic surprises and tactical surprises. Strategic surprises are attacks that are completely unexpected, thus your forces will be totally out of position to defend against such an attack. A classical example is Germany's bypassing of the Maginot line.

After that said, how would radar help you when the game turn is one year long?

[Rasputin]

gee a discussion on radar turned into quite a hot argument on gay right of speech versus confederate right of speeach...

Seems the PC people won thru with telling us all to live and let live....

[b&i_c]

Well I think that Radar should be a city improvement AND a tile improvement, a "radar station" as an tile improvement, AND a city thingamajig. Like the Geo Synchronous Survey Pods and the Sensor Arrays in SMAC. I think they should have much farthur range though, because on sea Cruisers can move 6/turn, and a sensor only lets you see 2 sqaures out. How is that useful??? I think that the range of radar should definitly be expanded.