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  • Any news about Civ-3 government-types?

    Have any news been released so far about Civ-3 government-types? How many are they?

  • #2
    In thisscreenshot it says:

    President Abraham Lincoln
    The Americans Despotism

    So I guess despotism is in. A bit strange the leader's title is "President" and not "Emperor" as in civ2 though.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gangerolf
      A bit strange the leader's title is "President" and not "Emperor" as in civ2 though.
      Well, on second thoughts maybe it's not that strange... I guess there have been (and probably still are) some despots who have calling themselves President.
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      • #4
        I guess that means S.E. is out. At least I assume it does which is too bad. I really wanted S.E. in Civ III.
        About 24,000 people die every day from hunger or hunger-related causes. With a simple click daily at the Hunger Site you can provide food for those who need it.

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        • #5
          no unit workshop, no SE... what a mess already...

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          • #6
            That screenshot could mean that the rulers will have titles that DO NOT change when a person changes GOVERNMENT... Firaxis- NOTE: This is a bad idea

            If I want America to be Communist the leader's title should either be
            A: Customizable
            B: "Comrade"
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ecthelion
              no unit workshop, no SE... what a mess already...
              So is S.E. definitely out?
              About 24,000 people die every day from hunger or hunger-related causes. With a simple click daily at the Hunger Site you can provide food for those who need it.

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              • #8
                Yes.
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                • #9
                  I hope not

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                  • #10
                    One of the few things that I think CTP and CTP2 were better in than Civ II (yes, it's hard to admit, but there are a few) are the government types.

                    I especially like Theocracy, Technocracy, Ecotopia, Corporate Republic, Virtual Democracy, and (i didn't like this, I just thought it was historical), Fascism. They should all be included IMO!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tniem
                      I guess that means S.E. is out. At least I assume it does which is too bad. I really wanted S.E. in Civ III.
                      Good news! I have never believed that SMAC-style Social Engineering was that suitable for Civ-3, anyway. I mean, how the heck was the game-designer at Firaxis suppose to objectively cut-and-glue all these pluses and minuses anyway, for all those subjective political-, economical-, religious- and life-in-general viewpoints out there, into a believable earthly S.E. system?

                      SMAC was a different case: One was playing "test-tube societys" on a strange & far away planet.

                      But in Civ-3 we are talking about earth, where everybody is his own political-, historical- and life-viewpoint expert. I say: it was a good thing that they went for those Civ-2 "take it or leave it" government types. Its hard enough as it is, tweaking those I suspect.

                      I hope however that they add some extra government-types - besides the already excisting ones in Civ-2.
                      Last edited by Ralf; May 25, 2001, 17:01.

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                      • #12
                        I favour the 'build-your-own' type government that someone proposed earlier, but this is pretty much out of consideration for civ3.

                        But just to throw the idea out again (with some modifications)
                        you would select whether to combine all power into dictatorship, or to split into branches such as executive (administration, ministries), legislative (parliaments/congress/assembly), and judicial (courtrooms).
                        these being dependent on 'advances' such as the rule of law or 'events' like Magna Carta.

                        within these, you'd make more choices, just like SE from SMAC. admittedly trying to balance views will be very difficult so perhaps the best thing might just be to separate government and economic systems. Thus by a little mix and match, you could get a socialist despot, a communist democracy, or a free market monarchy.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DarkCloud
                          Yes.
                          But I mean, has been announced or been said by Firaxis? Or is it just your (probably correct) hypothesis due to the known information?
                          About 24,000 people die every day from hunger or hunger-related causes. With a simple click daily at the Hunger Site you can provide food for those who need it.

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                          • #14
                            To all of you who mourns the S.E. system:

                            Why check out what Korn469 suggested a couple of months ago. Perhaps a little of this can be added on top of the fixed government-types. Personally, I would prefer a little though.

                            Click on the Ordinances: a simple idea to improve government in Civ3 (aka plz read Firaxis) thread. Any comments? Be sure to add it to the linked thread though - so that it gets kicked back in on the main forum-page.

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                            • #15
                              According to the latest Preview, a new government will be Nationalism.
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