Global Warming

[spy14]

The whole pollution thing in Civ is overdone, with irreversable and all to frequent terrain changes. I've modded my Civ3 to make buildings like banks reduce pollution to minimise the effects, but I think it needs to be a far smaller problem in Civ4.

Most people have heard the theory that the sun is currently going through an active cycle and in 60 years time we'll all be worrying about global cooling, and now i've seen an interesting new theory at http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapc...eut/index.html

I'm no scientist, but I do think theres enough evidence to reduce pollution effects in Civ4!!!

Please.

[Arnelos]

heh. Join the chorus.

The problem is that when creating a game, the designers of the game will create reality however they see it, not necessarily as reality exists.

[Chilean Presidentâ„¢]

Exactly besides I agree that perhaps is way too much pollution in Civ, I think reallity have nothing to do when the designers decide what to do with pollution.

anyway we should start a anti-pollution and anti-corruption movement here in poly. Those darn things are the things I hate the most in civ.

[The Mad Monk]

It was reversible in Civ2, I never understood why they didn't leave it that way.

I've changed my game so that pollution has no global warming effects, because they made it an all-or-nothing proposition, and I don't care how well I was doing or how much fun I was having, those first few ruined tiles always depressed me and ruined the fun.

[The Mad Monk]

If it were still possible to change terrain types (as in Civ2 with engineering) it would be different.

BECAUSE YOU COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

[Whoha]

Re: Global Warming

Originally posted by spy14
The whole pollution thing in Civ is overdone, with irreversable and all to frequent terrain changes. I've modded my Civ3 to make buildings like banks reduce pollution to minimise the effects, but I think it needs to be a far smaller problem in Civ4.

Most people have heard the theory that the sun is currently going through an active cycle and in 60 years time we'll all be worrying about global cooling, and now i've seen an interesting new theory at http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapc...eut/index.html

I'm no scientist, but I do think theres enough evidence to reduce pollution effects in Civ4!!!

Please.

I have eliminated pollution from the game, its just a pain in the butt to clean up.

Also global warming apparently only happens to grassland,plains terrain(well it also happens to forest and jungle squares, but then only to take out the forest or Jungle, so maybe a hedge against Global warming would be to forest all non city radius squares)

[spy14]

Not practical about the forests! Corruptions another good point, I tend to set the slider down to about 40% in all of my games.

[Solomwi]

Okay, going off memory here, but I'm almost positive I've seen it change tundra to grassland. This would've been pre-C3C, possibly pre-PTW and obviously many patches ago, but I vaguely remember sitting bolt upright and asking myself "Why the hell am I foresting all my tundras if they can actually be turned into useful tiles?!?"

I still forest all my tundra eventually, btw, just because I like the "arctic forest" look.

[pedrojedi]

And, of course, because it's more productive. Tundra scores.

I miss a bonus tile with polar bears... I think. Don't remember if Civ2 actually had one. I think I confounded it with the old bonus "fur".

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by Solomwi
Okay, going off memory here, but I'm almost positive I've seen it change tundra to grassland. This would've been pre-C3C, possibly pre-PTW and obviously many patches ago, but I vaguely remember sitting bolt upright and asking myself "Why the hell am I foresting all my tundras if they can actually be turned into useful tiles?!?"

I still forest all my tundra eventually, btw, just because I like the "arctic forest" look.

Actually, I recently played on an almost all tundra map (which I made on purpose that way) with a Future Era game. After a nuclear war and after removing a lot of the forest, global warming slowly started to terraform my planet for me.

When on a tundra planet: "Use nukes, save the planet!"

[Vince278]

Wouldn't you just get desert?

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by Vince278
Wouldn't you just get desert?

Eventually. Ever played an agricultural civ?

[Guest]

I think the polar resources were seals......

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Arnelos
Actually, I recently played on an almost all tundra map (which I made on purpose that way) with a Future Era game. After a nuclear war and after removing a lot of the forest, global warming slowly started to terraform my planet for me.

When on a tundra planet: "Use nukes, save the planet!"

Not only on a tundra planet. If milking a game for a high score (not my beef, some do), "nuke the river" is a good way to increase the food base for a higher population. Pollution isn't a problem anymore, since the workers don't have anything else to do anymore and clean the mess in a few turns.

[Last Conformist]

Can't say I've ever got more than a handful of tiles converted by global warming in a CivIII game. Never has it influenced any significant game decisions for me.