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    (just in case you haven't noticed, one of C3C's print ads was a picture of the White House with a "commie flag" over it.)

    From this month's Maximum PC In/Out (reader mail) section:

    I was very shocked and offended at the "ad" on page 39 of your November issue. This ad has a picture of the White House with a Commie flag over it (and lower in the page a little postage stamp-size logo for the game Civilization. Sirs, this is not an ad for a game--it is a political statement, and a treasonous one at that. Is it your policy now to run this type of cheap-shot anti-American propoganda when this country happens to be at war?

    After seeing this ad I will never, repeat never, buy a Firaxis or Atari game again for me or anyone else, and you can relay that thought to your advertisers. If you're going to continue to run ads of this ilk, maybe you should change the name of your magazine to something more appropriate, like Le Socialist Workers People's Review of Maximum Decadent Kapitalistic Komputers.
    -Ray C. Schultz
    I'll bet this guy wrote letters to THQ and Volition complaining about Red Faction.

    the mag's response was very gracefully pulled off, considering mine would be "..|..".

    Editor-in-chief Jon Phillips responds:
    It may be a disturbing image, Ray, but I don't think it's treasonous, at least not in the legal sense of the word. Regardless, I should point out the copy that runs with the image: "but for a few decisions, the world could be a very different place." Now, I don't know about you, but I interperet that as an endorsement of America's Cold War policy, which pretty much had the widespread support of our nation's most passionate self-proclaimed patriots. Regardless, I think we all know the game publisher's intent was ironic, not political.

    As for regulating the ads that appear in the magazine, we are sometimes a victim of the stringent firewall that we place between the advertising and editorial staffs of the magazine: We don't have the foggiest idea of what the ads look like until the magazine comes back from the printer (nor does the ad staff have any idea what specific content appears in the editorial pages.) Sometimes this firewall really bites us, but the Civilization ad wasn't one of these cases.


    EDIT: Damn. This shoulda gone in the Conquests forum shouldn't it?
    meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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    Some people are wrapped too tightly.

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    • #3
      Yeah, I saw that too. Good thing that guy doesn't know about culture flipping!!
      The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

      Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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      • #4
        Oh that's classic.

        Also, I'd quite like to see that advert.
        The Future of Sim Racing

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        • #5
          Thanks for the post mr_AFK.

          Really made my day.
          Consul.

          Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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            Funniest post in a long time...
            I watched you fall. I think I pushed.

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            • #7
              some people (like me) like to write fake letters to places pretending to be outraged.

              This guy may just be trolling.

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              • #8
                Wait a minute! I think we now can figure out what Wiglaf's real name is!



                meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                • #9
                  SAD guy :lol
                  I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

                  Asher on molly bloom

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                  • #10
                    i demand a scan of the ad and the letters! :dotinow!:
                    Co-Founder, Apolyton Civilization Site
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                    • #11
                      I have that issue of the magazine. I would scan it, but I have no scanner. I'd hardly call the ad treasonous. I would it is free speech. I think that Jon Philips defense of the ad is reasonable absent his exposure to Sid Meier incessent marketing of Mao in the game's different incarnations.
                      "...Democracy is the worst system there is, except all the other ones"

                      Winston Churchill

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                      • #12
                        A photocopy place would be almost sure to help you out.

                        /me hopes, if Mark wants this, we will ALL get to see it...

                        Consul.

                        Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                          • #14
                            My subscription ran out last month, but maybe the ad will be in some of the other game mags. If I see it I will scan it in.

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                            • #15
                              I was very shocked and offended at the retarded "ad" on page 39 of your November issue. This ad has a picture of the White House with a Commienazi flag over it (and lower in the page a little postage stamp-size logo for the game Civilization. THIS IS NOT AN AD FOR A GAME BUT A POLITICAL STATEMENT ...and a treasonous one at that. Is it now your policy to run cheap chinese commienazi antiamerican propaganda when the greatest nation on Earth happens to be at war? Still angry over the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991?

                              After seeing this ad I will never EVER EVER buy a Firaxis or Atari game again for me or anyone else, and you can relay that thought to your commienazi ilk. If you're going to continue to run this commienazi propaganda, maybe you should change the name of your magazine to something more appropriate, like PRAVDA!!!!!

                              You provide no evidence...you provide NOTHING! Yet you want to destory America...you criminals

                              -Fez
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                              Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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