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  • #16
    This is the kind of thinking you get from goverments and military. Short sighted. Worried about bad press, when it will really have very little impact. The vast majority of their sells will go to the people that bought the original and they will not be swayed by any reports. They will want the addon and hope for the best. It always comes from some one not at the top.
    These stories and actions are as bad for them as any negative story about the product itself.

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    • #17
      to the leakers, i hope they are prosecuted fully.

      to Firaxis who could have handled this in house without publicly announcing something.


      Looks like the conquests release is going to be as messy as the PTW.

      Too bad.

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      • #18
        Ohh, not looking good. Just what the hell were the leakers thinking! Come on, if you don't care about any agreements, don't go beta-testing.

        I only hope that the leaker wasn't some minor... I'd still hate to see a lawsuit filed against one.

        One thought. How are they going to find out who the guilty person is? I mean, when I was doing game beta-testing (not with Firaxis, though), I wasn't required to give any personal info other than my shipping address. And being my paranoid self, I didn't use my home mailing address either...

        But once again, a BIG thumbs down to the leaker(s).
        Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
        Contact: solver-at-weplayciv-dot-com
        I can kill you whenever I please... but not today. - The Cigarette Smoking Man

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        • #19
          Just to clarify - we are not planning on sueing anyone and public beta testing is still considered an extremely useful and important part of the development process. My statement was intended to be a general warning to everyone (beta tester or someone who has acquired C3C assets). It was not in reference to a specific incident. Having done public beta testing, it is very exciting to be a part of the creation of a project. When you're reading the communities comments and you know the answer, its hard to keep the truth silent! Sueing is drastic, but if someone posted all of the assets for the entire public beta on the newsgroups and ftp sites - we would DEFINITELY take action to protect our (and your!!) hard work.

          I can't even begin to express how amazing the public beta test experience was and how thankful I am to everyone who helped us create C3C. Please don't take the warning as a slight against your dedication and hard work!! Just be aware that 300 people can have very different morales and values!!

          Thanks,

          Jesse
          Last edited by JesseSmith; October 5, 2003, 18:05.

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          • #20
            Also, I apologize for the harsh tone of the announcement - I forget how easy it is for words to be taken the wrong way. If someone had been posting content that would force legal action then it would have definitely been kept private - this was more of a pre-emptive message. An email to the beta tester distribution list would have been useful if I had one!

            I miss the beta forum.
            Last edited by JesseSmith; October 5, 2003, 18:03.

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            • #21
              /me is still SHOCKED not to have been a beta tester.
              The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

              Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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              • #22
                /me thinks Theseus would have made a great tester.

                well... hopefully there'll be Civ4
                A true ally stabs you in the front.

                Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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                • #23
                  On a serious note, thanks for the clarification Jesse, and I'm glad that the public beta has been a good experience... here's hoping it shows up in the quality of C3C!!
                  Last edited by Theseus; October 5, 2003, 18:08.
                  The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

                  Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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                  • #24
                    I could easily make some troll out of this...

                    But I won't...
                    Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
                    Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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                    • #25
                      The mericful Comrade Tassadar spares his wrath for now. For now....
                      If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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                      • #26
                        Now all I need is the gone gold annoucement.

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                        • #27
                          Jesse, That happens not to select me to you my. Outside jokes.

                          He is bad that somebody can do that.

                          Since those images are you publish. so that you do not publish them officially and we see all them?
                          El futuro pertenece a quienes creen en la belleza de sus sueños.
                          - Eleanor Roosevelt

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                          • #28
                            since no-one saw them then they aren't "there".
                            A true ally stabs you in the front.

                            Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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                            • #29
                              Oh, and Jesse, about Marine+Berserk Armies...

                              The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

                              Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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                              • #30
                                /me is still SHOCKED about Marine+Berserk Armies!

                                The outrage!
                                Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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