Does clearing terrain cause resources to dry up sooner?

[bvoncranium]

I apologize if this has been discussed before, but I'd like to know the answer...

I know that it is possible to clear terrain that has a terrain-specific resource on it (e.g. coal, rubber, etc.), and retain the resource even though it no longer matches the cleared terrain. For example, clearing jungle that has rubber in it will retain the rubber even though the terrain turns into grassland, which is not compatible with rubber.
I also understand that resources can 'dry up' and disappear according to some arcane probablility formula.

My question is: If you end up with a resource sitting on an incompatible cleared terrain type (e.g. rubber on grassland), does the probability of the resource disappearing increase?

Thanks in advance for your informed responses.
- bvc

[Jaybe]

No, clearing the terrain has no effect on disappearance probabilities.

Resources are placed on permitted terrain as the map is generated. They are not placed when they are first "discovered". Resources will always RE-appear somewhere whenever they "disappear", sometimes even in the same location (UNLESS you have modded the game so that LUXURY resources disappear -- they just go "poof" and they are gone). Check the Resources tab in the Editor to see the disappearance factors, and use the Editor Help for explanations.

EDIT: typos

[Snotty]

Resources will always RE-appear somewhere whenever the "disappear", sometimes even in the same location

Its an unlikely situation, but what if every jungle and forest square on the map had been chopped? Would my disappearing rubber simply reappear in the same spot?

[Jaybe]

Resources also RE-appear based on how the map was generated, not on its present state.

I "Believe" (based on observation) that when the map is generated, particular locations are selected to be resource locations, and resources will appear and "move to" only those locations. There are probably more "locations" than total resources, and I am including bonus resources, etc.

[vmxa1]

Jaybe is correct, clearing the tile will not affect a resource from occurring there. The tile will be treated as if it were still a jungle for the purposes of placing the rubber.
It seems to me that the expiring of resources as been toned down quite a bit. I do not see as much as I recalled in the pre 1.29f or PTW days.

[Willem]

Well for one thing, Rubber doesn't disappear.

[Snotty]

Theres always one smart ass

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by Willem
Well for one thing, Rubber doesn't disappear.

Good point and neither do horses, but that is not what they really wanted to know.

[Wittlich]

Originally posted by Snotty
Theres always one smart ass

But Willem does make a valid point.

[Ecthy]

Too bad uranium always disappears so quickly

[Willem]

Originally posted by Snotty
Theres always one smart ass

Well the point I was sort of making was that with most resources, there's more than one terrain type where they can disappear. So if Jungles and Forests are cut down, there'll still be places where they can reappear. Rubber is the exception since those are the only terrain types that it can show up in. Which is perhaps why they made it so it doesn't disappear. That's my guess anyway.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Jaybe
Resources will always RE-appear somewhere whenever they "disappear"

Not true. Even ignoring the extreme case of all forest/jungle being gone, if there is a small number of free tiles for the resource to go, it won't always reappear.

[Datajack Franit]

Ooh I didn't know that horses could not disappear

[Ecthy]

Which else resources cannot disappear, anyone?

[Snotty]

Sorry Willem, it must just be a local saying. Its always funny when someone blow your idea out of the water with something so obvious you hadnt considered it