A question about trade

[Tiberius]

Yes, just post it already, damnit!

[The Pioneer]

Jeez, Louise! Don't I feel like a greenhorn asking all these questions . Now here is the link! . Could somebody give it a try?!

So long....

[Jaybe]

Pioneer, you linked to the web page where you view your uploaded file.
You want to give use your password so we can view it? I thought not.

You have to link to the actual uploaded file.
For instance, to link to a file that I uploaded, it would be
"http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Jaybe/Jaybes_PTW_game.zip"
(without the quote marks) inside the URL thingies.

[Tiberius]

Pioneer, go to your Control Panel, then click "Upload". On the right of the Upload page you will have the "View files" tab; insert your name and passw. and click on the "View" button. A new page displaying all your uploaded files will appear.

Now, right click on the link describing your file (the save in this case, I suppose) and choose "Copy shortcut". Then come back here, and paste that link in your post.

More detailed than that I can't explain it

[The Pioneer]

I have turn red a hundred times and I am very ashamed of myself for those of you still interested in my case you can find the file here!

If this doesn't do it I will give you my password damn it!

So long... ...and thanks for bearing with me!

[Tiberius]

We're bearing with you only because we are curious to see the save

I'm downloading it right now (in progress ....)

[Tiberius]

First of all, you uploaded the save where you have already made the deal with the Ecology and the wines, so I can only guess what happened.

So: you had sold your only wine to Spain (a deal that will expire in 3 turns), then you bought wines from England ! (will expire in 16 turns)

So you have one local wine, you import one wine and you export one wine

After cancelling the trade with the spanish, I should have had 2 wines (1 local, 1 imported). Despite this, when offering wines to the French, it appeared as if I had only one (so with a 0 near the wines, in the trade screen). I was able to sell that wine, and my cities are still using the import wine.

What I understand from this is that in the trade screen, only local resources appear (I didn't know this). You can't sell something that is imported.

Pioneer, when there is a zero near a luxury/resource in the trade screen, it means that you have only one such luxury/resource (and you are using it for your own cities). Nevertheless, you can sell it, just click on it. Be careful, your cities will not be able to use it during the trade period! This is why you were able to buy later wines from England.

[The Pioneer]

So if I have 3 wines and I make a trade with wine I should have 2 left to trade right? Well why do they dissapear from my screen, as they never existed?

So long...

[Tiberius]

I don't understand. You have only one wine.

You have 4 sillks. You are selling one silk to England and you have 3 others to offer. I sold them right now to France, the Ottomans and Egypt. They didn't disappear.

[Tiberius]

There is one more possibility I can think of: let's say that you have 2 wines (both local), and you want to sell one of them (or both) but they aren't appearing in the trade screen. It means that your prospect is buying it from someone else. Only those resources appear that are needed by the other side.

You can't sell wines to the English, unless they sell all their wines to others. Nor can you sell wines to the Ottomans or to France, if they are already buying wines from England. The wines simply won't appear in the trade screen when talking with these nations.

[The Pioneer]

That is one important fact right there, that the prospect's lack of interest is the reason why I don't some times see available resources on my side on the diplomacy screen.

I see.

Thanks a bunch Tiberius, by the way I cool sayings on your signature.

So long...

[Tiberius]

Originally posted by The Pioneer
Thanks a bunch Tiberius,

You're welcome

Btw, why didn't you wipe out the English yet ? Build 200 MAs and let them roll

by the way I cool sayings on your signature.

This is why I put them there

[The Pioneer]

Oh, at the moment 1986 or so I am almost alone on the continent, some smaller damaged spanish and persian cities exist. I have build a city on the second continent and I am about to unleash hell with over 40 ICBM and Nukes. My invasion forces are waiting for my signal!
I will switch to Communism or Monarchy and then I will roll...

So long...

[Tiberius]

Ahh, so you are nuke freak

Have fun