Revealing the map during modern times

[Menlas]

Hi there,


Do you know if there's a way to reveal a part of the map (or the whole map) , by cancelling the fog of war for example ?
I mean, it's quite strange we cannot even see the map of our allies (or even enemies) during the modern age... As soon as you discover the Satellites tech, wouldn't it be logic to reveal the whole map, assuming you have spy satellites ? I miss CtP with its Globesat and spyplanes
So, is there a way, in the editor for example, to do it ?

Thanks

[Wittlich]

Actually, this ability will be incorporated in the release of Civ3 Conquests - discovering Satellites will cancel out the fog of war.

[Menlas]

So, basically I'll have to buy the XP to get that... sounds like Microsoft stategy

Thanks

[Vlado]

Hmmm, watching every single unit move on the map... Hmmm... Maybe I'll just buy this paint and watch that dry instead...

[David Murray]

I only remember reading that Satellites in C3C will make the whole map explored, not permanently visible. Of course, it would be much better if the whole map was permanently visible!

[TheArsenal]

Hmmm, watching every single unit move on the map... Hmmm... Maybe I'll just buy this paint and watch that dry instead...

There is a wonder in CTP2 which allows you to see everything happening on the map. Turns out what the AI does the most is move in circles going nowhere. Quite literally.

[Panag]

hi ,

well they should have a small military wonder that lets you see all the movements in lets say a 9 X 9 area , this should increase on the map size , for a 362 X 362 it should be something like 18 X 18 or so , .....

ones every so many turns you should be able to let your spy center to take a look at that square and you should see everything that happens for two turns , .....

have a nice day

[WarpStorm]

Steal map

[zorbop]

not just in cpt2 does the ai go in circles... in civ3have you seen the ai move units on its own territory? it does the same with fast units on roads. just atch the knights go round and round and round... NEVER build an outpost on a mountain near ai territory!

[Panag]

Originally posted by zorbop
not just in cpt2 does the ai go in circles... in civ3have you seen the ai move units on its own territory? it does the same with fast units on roads. just atch the knights go round and round and round... NEVER build an outpost on a mountain near ai territory!

hi ,

well this is supposed to be fixed now , .....

but it would be nice to see the AI build an outpost or airfield ones in a while , .....

have a nice day

[David Murray]

In Civilization II, I think the whole map became revealed when one person research space flight, or something. Anyway, it would say: 'Astronauts bring back pictures of earth from space'. It's been awhile but I don't remember any particular problems with looping in civ 2

[SpencerH]

Uncovering the map with 'satellites' was useless in civ2 and if thats all it does, it will be useless in conquests too.

As panag suggested there could be a small wonder with satellites that allows for look down intel on a 3x3 piece of land. If you made satellites a unit then they could be moved (and destroyed by the use of nuclear weapons) Maybe they'll have time to include these ideas. Panag dont you have a direct line to them

[Panag]

Originally posted by SpencerH
Uncovering the map with 'satellites' was useless in civ2 and if thats all it does, it will be useless in conquests too.

As panag suggested there could be a small wonder with satellites that allows for look down intel on a 3x3 piece of land. If you made satellites a unit then they could be moved (and destroyed by the use of nuclear weapons) Maybe they'll have time to include these ideas. Panag dont you have a direct line to them

hi ,

well a long , long time ago the idea came up in a long chat with firaxis , panag , Mike , Gramphos and two or three others where there , the idea was based on C&C tibsun , firestorm , ....

how the building - improvement is going to work still remains a bit of a mystery , ...... even the beta tester are not fully sure what the final is going to be , ......

have a nice day


P.S. ; the direct line is one crate of beer for some info or ideas , ......

[Solver]

It's a big pain in the butt when you have to watch 350 AI units move. As if Civ 3 turns aren't slow enough already.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Solver
It's a big pain in the butt when you have to watch 350 AI units move. As if Civ 3 turns aren't slow enough already.

hi ,

well when working with that square ( gps - sat ) you could just not use it till you want to , or just use it at sea or your own land , .....


, why not think a bit further with this , they should include two types of " views " , one lets say 6X6 area that shows all the units ( high detail ) and since radar can see true a city , so should gps - sat do , and one 12X12 area pic that lets say shows all the wheel or track units ( low detail ) , no foot soldiers , .....

Firaxis , .....


have a great day


P.S. faster turns ? , get more ram , ......