Intercepting Bomber Missions

[Panag]

Originally posted by bobbo008
ok, i appears as if some posts contradict or i'm just slow. anyone care to help me out again and say how exactly i can get fighters to fight each other. do they both have to be on air superiority, can one be on recon, or does one have to be on a bombing mission? thanks

and i've had many stealth bombers get shot down, and once to a plain ol' fighter...

hi ,

just place one figher on air sup , then do your bomb run or just to be on the save side , send a fighter first for a recon , then bomb , .....

but be carefull , in the enemy has many cities that overlay one and an other it shall not work ( if there are fighters in them on air sup )

the stealth that you lost , dont worry , imagine the pilot made an error while moving away from the old fighter , .....

have a nice day

[Jaybe]

bobbo,
I am just repeating what I said before, but:
For a fighter on Air Superiority to intercept, there must be an opposing BOMBING (or Precision Bombing) mission within half the fighter's operational range of the fighter's base. ALSO, it must be determined that the mission will be intercepted (50%, 5% for stealth).

Recon missions will never be intercepted. For crying out softly, the AI doesn't even have any USE for recon (they already know where everything is).

[bobbo008]

once again, contradiction. one says i can two fighters on air supremacy can fight, the other only when there is a bombing mission...

i've never even seen an air fight, are they any good?

[Panag]

Originally posted by bobbo008
once again, contradiction. one says i can two fighters on air supremacy can fight, the other only when there is a bombing mission...

i've never even seen an air fight, are they any good?

hi ,

they are over fast but its worth it

months ago someone posted some pics of it , ....... ( but where , search aint given thread )

have a nice day

[Mad Bomber]

Bobo:

Jaybe is correct. Interception occurs only with bombing missions. Air superiority will NOT interfere in another interception mission.

Panag:

If you want to represent fighter- bombers then just up the bombardment stats of the fighter, Jet fighter, and F-15.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Mad Bomber
Bobo:

Jaybe is correct. Interception occurs only with bombing missions. Air superiority will NOT interfere in another interception mission.

Panag:

If you want to represent fighter- bombers then just up the bombardment stats of the fighter, Jet fighter, and F-15.

hi ,

nah there should be a new unit to close the gap , maybe one like a phantom or so , with two options , ' push button for fighter mission ' & ' push button for bomb run ' , .....

have a nice day

[bobbo008]

"' push button for fighter mission ' & ' push button for bomb run ' "

air superiority and bombing?

ok, the only way to get rid of enemy fighters is to have one of my fighters bomb near them and hope to get in a fight and win?

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by bobbo008
ok, the only way to get rid of enemy fighters is to have one of my fighters bomb near them and hope to get in a fight and win?

YES, that's the only way to DESTROY enemy fighters in air-to-air combat (unless your bomber WINS while being intercepted)!!

However, since a fighter on Air Superiority can intercept only once per turn, you can clear the interceptor so that your bomber can get in even if your fighter loses.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Jaybe

YES, that's the only way to DESTROY enemy fighters in air-to-air combat (unless your bomber WINS while being intercepted)!!

However, since a fighter on Air Superiority can intercept only once per turn, you can clear the interceptor so that your bomber can get in even if your fighter loses.

hi ,

yes thats true , but if there us an other city in the radius , .... with a fighter , ..... that leads to a costly loss

have a nice day

[Jaybe]

However, since a fighter on Air Superiority can intercept only once per turn, you can clear the interceptor so that your bomber can get in even if your fighter loses.

yes thats true , but if there us an other city in the radius , .... with a fighter , ..... that leads to a costly loss

Duh, good point. So, IF an interceptor intercepts, and IF there are no other interceptors within radius (1/2 of op. range), then you're safe to bring in the bombers. Or you can just decide to be lucky with the RNG so the bombing mission just doesn't get intercepted.

What I try to do is do fighter bombing missions in the bomb target area (accounting for intercept range) until I have 2 consecutive missions not intercepted (remember, I use 67% chance to intercept). Then I assume there aren't any more interceptors, bring in the bombers, and hope for the best. Of course, having a spy in place so you know when they run out of fighters is nice.

Where it gets really fun is when they have bombers too, so you also want some of your fighters on intercept, not just offensive missions.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Jaybe

However, since a fighter on Air Superiority can intercept only once per turn, you can clear the interceptor so that your bomber can get in even if your fighter loses.

yes thats true , but if there us an other city in the radius , .... with a fighter , ..... that leads to a costly loss

Duh, good point. So, IF an interceptor intercepts, and IF there are no other interceptors within radius (1/2 of op. range), then you're safe to bring in the bombers. Or you can just decide to be lucky with the RNG so the bombing mission just doesn't get intercepted.

What I try to do is do fighter bombing missions in the bomb target area (accounting for intercept range) until I have 2 consecutive missions not intercepted (remember, I use 67% chance to intercept). Then I assume there aren't any more interceptors, bring in the bombers, and hope for the best. Of course, having a spy in place so you know when they run out of fighters is nice.

Where it gets really fun is when they have bombers too, so you also want some of your fighters on intercept, not just offensive missions.

hi ,

actually you are never save , ......

sometimes bomber 2 and three go true , no 4 gets it , 5 and 6 go true , yet they where all in range of 5 AI cities with at least one fighter on watch , .......

the AI shall most of the times not put two fighters in one city , an other intresting is that the AI tends to fall for a set up , bomb a couple times one side of his land and you shall see that on the other side there are no fighters left , ......


have a nice day

[bobbo008]

"the AI shall most of the times not put two fighters in one city "

in my current game, the AI has grouped its 10 or so fighters into about 3 cities, usually in the area of whre i'm bombing at that time.

[Traelin]

Originally posted by bobbo008
"the AI shall most of the times not put two fighters in one city "

in my current game, the AI has grouped its 10 or so fighters into about 3 cities, usually in the area of whre i'm bombing at that time.

Yes, this is extremely common. A couple nights ago I encountered the craziest thing I had ever seen. I've been playing the same game for ages now, and it's currently like 2334AD or so. Well needless to say, the Babs have gotten rowdy and had a ton of Stealth Bombers, and they went nuts on the Egyptians. Due to my indirect protection of the Egyptians (via dumping tons of money their way), they had 60-70 Jet Fighters. I watched them shoot down approximately 11-12 Stealth Bombers in one turn. The crazy part was that they shot down 6 in a row. I've personally never shot down more than 3 in a row, so I was impressed.

BTW, what's the deal with the max number of troops in the game? It seems to be an AWFULLY low number IMO for a Huge map. Granted, I had 594 MA and 585 MI, and the Babs were big, too. But given the amount of land I had, it was ridiculously difficult for me to defend anything other than my bases of operation. Is there any chance we'll see a bump-up in the number of allowable units in Conquests?

[Atahualpa]

Traelin,

nukes would help a lot

[Panag]

Originally posted by bobbo008
"the AI shall most of the times not put two fighters in one city "

in my current game, the AI has grouped its 10 or so fighters into about 3 cities, usually in the area of whre i'm bombing at that time.

hi ,

not at first ( right after he can build them ) or towards a longer campaign , and then there is the trick to lure them away to the other side of his nation , ......


what would really helpfull and intresting is to see the AEGIS cruiser to launch rockets like the SAM site in the cities when enemy planes are in the area ( 3 X 3 ) , .....


have a nice day