Improving the expansionist trait

[pedrojedi]

maybe a 2-move worker?

[Panag]

Originally posted by pedrojedi
maybe a 2-move worker?

hi ,

, its too strong , it could unbalance the game

have a nice day

[bobbo008]

a 1.25 move worker?

[dexters]

I personally prefer workers who have a special ability

"entertain"

Hit the button and they will dance for you.

[Daz]

How about make the scouts "convert" the villages they run into.... thus getting a city (and disbanding the scout)?

Kinda like a settler....

[MrWhereItsAt]

I remember a post back in history (an earlier version, of course, and pre-PtW) where someone reported a GL from a naval battle. It was American, I believe, and they may have posted a screenshot.

[Louis XXIV]

My only wish is that Scouts had one movement, treating all squares as roads

[MrWhereItsAt]

If only the Archives had search ability. I just spent the time since my last post manually looking for the thread. I gave up when I got back to Jan '02.

We could rename Expansionistic to Imperialistic and have leaders generated by Barb camps (eg Caesar emerged from fighting the Gauls, many Roman Emperors emerged from the Barbarian fighting ranks).

Of course for that you just need to go back and use patch v1.16f of Civ3.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Kloreep
Reduced Granary costs for expansionists might be a little unbalancing... they're great as it is, and if you could build them in the early game for the cost of a settler, expansionist would become THE trait; almost as bad as Industrious seems to be THE trait now (though I guess there's at least some disagreement on that, as I've seen quite a lot of non-Industrious civs mentioned as favorites). Reduced cost of Aqueducts and/or Hospitals might be a better choice; while they're a greater shield savings, they come later on, especially Hospitals, and Aqueducts aren't going to be built in every city because of terrain, unhappiness, or if it's on a river.

Also, you could give Expansionists a second UU; a 2-move Settler is one idea I've seen, and I think it's a pretty good one, though I don't know if the AI could handle the decision of whether to escort it or use full speed.

After thinking it over and looking at shield cost, I think you are probably correct on the grainary. The aqueduct shield reduction does seem like a better fit. With it coming early in the game it seems a better fit for expansionist than the Hospital.

A two move settler would make the expansionist able to dominate the game and would IMHO unbalance things.

[Louis XXIV]

I like the cheaper aqueduct thing (anyone else think Commercial civs should have cheaper Marketplaces?)

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Louis XXIV
I like the cheaper aqueduct thing (anyone else think Commercial civs should have cheaper Marketplaces?)

I like this idea as well. It should be possible to key a reduced cost for a particular building to a civ trait. Don't they already do this with barracks and militaristic?

Also, what building for which trait do you think should have the reduction? If every Civ had a particular building would the game maintain its balance?

[Panag]

Originally posted by Daz


How about make the scouts "convert" the villages they run into.... thus getting a city (and disbanding the scout)?

Kinda like a settler....

hi ,

it does happen , ......

seen it a couple times in the early days ( it got down with some patch ) when your city expanded the village became a new city , ....... often a size two or three , ...

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Louis XXIV
I like the cheaper aqueduct thing (anyone else think Commercial civs should have cheaper Marketplaces?)

hi ,

, what a bout a new trait , "builders" or so , they would get reduction for most buildings , not wonders or certain key buildings later on , .....

have a nice day

[PLATO]

I don't know if a new trait is needed. I would rather see more emphasis put on the ability of a particular civ to build a civ related building quicker.

The trait of "Builder" would seem to indicate that the civ had no cultural objective other than massive city sprawl. (Which, come to think of it might be pretty realistic after all )

[Panag]

Originally posted by PLATO1003
I don't know if a new trait is needed. I would rather see more emphasis put on the ability of a particular civ to build a civ related building quicker.

The trait of "Builder" would seem to indicate that the civ had no cultural objective other than massive city sprawl. (Which, come to think of it might be pretty realistic after all )

hi ,

with 24 civs and eight more around the corner and lets hope an other 32 behind that , ....

well new traits might be welcome , at least two of them

have a nice day