civ 3 is not a fair and good game

[statusperfect]

Originally posted by panag




thats apolyton jobuck , .....


are you going to complain about everyones avatar that you dont like at poly , .... good luck

no "have a nice day"?




cheers

[jobuck]

Something not very clear:

I have a unit fighting another:
Sometime, it win against one other unit without loosing any health point, and sometime it loose all without the other loose anythink (the minute after).

Where come the ADM here ? Is there a random factor of success that have more importance than the ADM ?

[Cruddy]

Here's how it goes on combat ;-

The Attack number of the attacker is added to the Defense number of the Defender.

This Total is used to work out each round of combat.

A random number is generated. If less or equal to the Attack number, the Defender will lose a health point. If more, the Attacker will lose a hit point.

The fight goes on until one side or the other is defeated (or a fast unit like a horse retreats from a slow unit like a spearman).

To me, if I win an attack with a Tank, the 2nd attack will probably not succeed (Tanks and Armies can BLITZ, that is attack as many times as they have movement poinrt).

So yes, every attack is random. But high value Attackers will USUALLY defeat low value Defenders.

Oh Jo Buck, you might like this thread on AI attitude - making friends and enemies.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44999

Hope this helps

[jobuck]

Thank's cruddy-buddy

Very much to read, but we have nothing without some effort, and I want to win !!!! (one time will be enough. I can loose after that)

[Cruddy]

One point I did not mention - there is an option to "SAVE RANDOM SEED". Some people save Preserve instead of Save, but it is the same thing.

With this option on, all battles will be played out with the random seed kept.

With it turned off, you can save your game and keep replaying the combat. If you lose, just reload and get a different random result.

MANY PEOPLE say this is cheating - but it can be useful to keep confidence when learning the game.

Also, as many other posters have said, start to learn on Chieftan difficulty. When you can beat that, go up to higher levels.

[Louis XXIV]

Try this

http://www.zachriel.com/BattleCivulation.asp

That shows the chances of a unit winning

Every unit has a chance to beat another (However rare that might be)

the forumla is A/(A+D) A Warrior (1) attacking another Warrior (1) comes out to 1/2 or 50% chance. The Terrain a unit is on affects defense as well. Also, if a unit is fortified, it gets 1.5 (or is it 2?) x Defense

[jobuck]

It's still hard to accept to get 4 health point and loose againt the same unit having 3 health point.
As well as that there is no way to avoid a war when you start a game and that your territory become large.
I know, I know, I have to learn the best practice.
But I just mention that it's hard to accept.
So, I'm ready to start a new game *and this continu again and again..*

[Jamski]

Hell, I was playing civ games for 10 years and I lost my first Civ3 game on Cheiftain. It takes about 4 or 5 games to get a handle on it. Don't give up !

-Jam

[Cruddy]

Like Louis X1V says, the terrain the defender is in can make things very different.

Mountains are best to defend in - defense is doubled (100%). Hills are next best at (50%) and the same is given to rivers (50%).

A city with walls also gets 50%, as does a city with population 7-12. A population 13 or more city gets 100%! Pity you can't build cities on mountains....

DON'T DO THE FOLLOWING UNTIL YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THE GAME. I like Civ because if you are playing with the latest patch (1.29f), download from

http:www.civ3.com

You can add extra units (100s of different types) and mod ("modify") the game a lot with the editor. OK, there are limits - but it's a game you can play again and again and have a different game every time. Like I said, save this for when you start getting confident, and have lots of warriors and archers at the start to deal with the other civs.

If you are attacking a unit with the same kind of unit, wouldn't you expect to lose about half the time? Remember, in real life, the defender always gets the advantage. So having a large military is a good idea in Civ.

Also, do not confuse the barbs ("barbarians") with AI civs. They are kind of a random civ that springs up in unpopulated areas at the start of the game. As Civilisation spreads out, the barbs die out. That is why at the start, keep your military units checking out for barbs & barb camps. A barb camp, successfully attacked, gets you a gold bonus. MUCH better than waiting for the barbs to come to you.

[jobuck]

4 or 5 only ???

I have play around 40 games till now without any victory. I'm playing at the monarch level, a mistake for a beginner, but I won't abandon this level.
I start with, and I want a victory first !

NOTE:
The day I will win, I will only accept from my ennemies that they can manage 1 city, no more.
yek yek yek

[Cruddy]

Jo Buck, one thing to remember;-

The map generator does not give the same kind of start every time.

Some starts for games are much more difficult than others - and it takes a lot of knowledge to spot a difficult start.

I wish you luck with your quest - but I think you are trying to run before you know how to walk.

Don't say we didn't warn you. Good luck!

[bobbo008]

"yek yek yek"

which kind of Swiss are you, exactly?

[jobuck]

Cruddy:
You warn me, but no way, I won't give up.
It's very frustrating already to loose, so go down to one level, I cannot.

bobbo008:
yek yek yek is supposed to represent the cries of some unfair animal you may found in the fabulous and beautiful swiss mountain.

[Cruddy]

Originally posted by bobbo008
"yek yek yek"

which kind of Swiss are you, exactly?

I have found that reading threads before posting often prevents embarrassment.

[jobuck]

I would like also to mention that the day (or couple of hours) were I will win, I will also ask the others countries to give me the map of the world and 50 gold.
Something they seems to like to ask me very often.